Canadian Lady Married to UK Man Wants to Move to UK ALONE

[LOVES_THE_UK]

I am married to a man from the UK and he lives here in Canada. I want very much to move to the UK and he doesn't want to live there so I would like to move there alone. Any chance I would be able to do this? I'm not a highly skilled worker but I can work and work hard. His family is all there and I am very close to them...would it be any help if I was able to live with them there for awhile? I am really desperate and cannot explain everything here but more than anything, I want to live in the UK. I am tempted to just GO and try to work under the table somewhere and hope for the best but I would prefer to do this properly. I just cannot stay here in Canada. I know this seems weird likely to people but I am just meant to be in the UK. I would just love to live there forever and build a happy new life.

[Wanderer]

I am married to a man from the UK and he lives here in Canada. I want very much to move to the UK and he doesn't want to live there so I would like to move there alone. Any chance I would be able to do this? I'm not a highly skilled worker but I can work and work hard. His family is all there and I am very close to them...would it be any help if I was able to live with them there for awhile? I am really desperate and cannot explain everything here but more than anything, I want to live in the UK. I am tempted to just GO and try to work under the table somewhere and hope for the best but I would prefer to do this properly. I just cannot stay here in Canada. I know this seems weird likely to people but I am just meant to be in the UK. I would just love to live there forever and build a happy new life.

No you can't.

Ur options are;

1. Student

2. Highly Skilled

3. Ancestry

4. YMS maybe if ur under 30

Don't even think about working illegally, ur be deported/removed and any employer fined £10k, and they know it now so generally check all visas/passports.

There aren't any jobs here anyway, it's bad and getting worse...

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

LOVES_THE_UK,

Do you have any parents or grandparents who were born in Europe or were citizens of European countries? How old are you?

If you want to travel and live other places, you might want to think about moving with your husband to another EU country for a a few months. You can both work and try it out. Very easy! Ireland? Netherland? France? Finland? there are lots of options... And if it works out, you can live there as long as you want. Or move back to Canada easily.

[LOVES_THE_UK]

My maternal Grandmother was born in Scotland and came to Canada in 1927. I have proof of this. Would this be of help to me being allowed to move and stay in the UK forever? I am 45 by the way as someone asked how old I am.

[Wanderer]

My maternal Grandmother was born in Scotland and came to Canada in 1927. I have proof of this. Would this be of help to me being allowed to move and stay in the UK forever? I am 45 by the way as someone asked how old I am.

Ur in luck!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Ancestr ... _Clearance

You'll need all the Birth, Marriage and Death certs all down the line I think - the info will be on the UKBA website.

[LOVES_THE_UK]

THANK YOU EVER SO MUCH FOR SO KINDLY ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS SO QUICKLY. I cannot explain why but I am just most desperate to leave Canada and my current husband said he left the UK for good as he didn't like living there so I am going to have to go alone and to start a new life in the UK. I'm not trying to be vague or mysterious and I AM NOT A CRIMINAL OR AVOIDING ANY LEGAL OBLIGATION. I AM CHILDLESS. I just can't stay here as someone from my past is bothering me relentlessly and no legal means is stopping him. This is not a joke and my life is just being ruined and I feel like a "shut in" as I am that afraid of him. Canada is a big country but when a person is relentless, they can make your life miserable and make you nervous all the time. I feel moving far away is my only hope of freedom. It sounds like my move might be possible but I am so afraid I'll end up unable to do it.

****I'm sorry to be so complicated and difficult I should have added/clarified this earlier- my MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER was born in Scotland-MEANING THE MOTHER OF MY BIOLOGICAL MOTHER was born in Scotland and her husband, my maternal Grand Father was born in the Netherlands......and my bio Mom, born in Canada, gave me up for adoption at birth in 1964 in Canada. *****

I did meet my biological mother and knew her but she is dead now as is my maternal grandmother whoever I have a sister who I think may have moved from Canada to Scotland but I am not in touch with her. There are other living relatives here in Canada who I think could help me get documents and they know who I am.

WILL THE ADOPTION EFFECT MY RIGHTS I WONDER? I know this is alot to be asking people here.....it's really important to me to be able to make this move somehow and if it means digging up people, I will.

I am so thankful and grateful for any input from anyone. I don't want to give up hope that something can work.

What countries are there that people can move to easily and freely?

Can anyone tell me what it's like living in the UK as my husband just says it's too crowded and expensive but he's a loner who likes space....I like people and don't mind "crowded".....my in laws all like the UK. But I don't go asking them alot of questions either. Really lovely people.....I'm sad to leave my husband behind but I just must have a life too. I know now that it's not possible for me to stay here. Again I am so thankful for any input and if anyone wants to email me directly, they are very welcome. I hope I have not been too personal on here but I realised I needed to get my facts straight with you if I was to obtain the correct info.

Thanks to anyone ever so greatly!

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

Canada is a pretty big place and is easy to disappear in if you want. And moving to Europe is another way to disappear. But you might want to consider trying to get a restraining order against this person from your past. It may be a better and more effective option than trying to flee into obscurity in some new place.

The UK is a lovely place to visit, but it can be a real challenge to adjust to. But then again the weather is nice now, so everything seems good! Note that it is also a particularly challenging time to get a job here – employers are very nervous.

Read carefully through the immigration rules. It should be clear if adoption is an issue or not. If you are unsure after reading, create a new conversation about that topic and various experts will chime in.

[Wanderer]

I think it's fair to say things aren't good here at the moment, few jobs, the whole place is geared to screwing Joe Public out of every penny.

For example - a mate of mine has four kids, just been made redundant. He was a high earner, 100k plus, but guess what - he signs on for benefit and gets nothing, nada, nowt, nichego.

Well he should have saved I hear u say, well he has but that's not the point, he's paid into the system in one year more than most do in a lifetime - why shouldn't he get his share?

In Germany, correct me if I'm wrong Deutschlanders but u'd get 70% of ur last year earnings there, reducing over subsequent years but still not nothing.

This whole country is pack em in tight, rip em off maximum and spit em out. Like USA. The same. Ur cost of living here will be about £3000 in visas alone, everything is 'extra'.

And I'm British born and bred - lucky enough to experienced life on the continent and Russia and I know where I'm heading. Even Russia is better than this ripoff mentally we have here.

Example; average salary for a decent Office job, not bottom of the pile but nothing highly skilled or esoteric is about 20 grand - everyone agree?

Less tax/NI that's £1250 a month roughly. A decent house in an area without much drug/knife crime to buy would be around £190k? Mortgage (Latin for Death Grip) about £1000? Leaving £250 quid

That's council tax of £150, Gas/electric £50 each, metered water £50, oops it's all gone. And you've you've not been fed yet.

I'm as proud of my country as the next man but I wouldn't come here.

And I agree with the previous poster, if ur running away from some disaster at home it's not gonna get better here. I would think twice.

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

But.... It is a lovely day in London. Sunny. And the long holiday weekend is approaching quickly.

For me, the country is half full! (But challenged and challenging).

[Wanderer]

But.... It is a lovely day in London. Sunny. And the long holiday weekend is approaching quickly.

For me, the country is half full! (But challenged and challenging).

But we have the sun here in Leeds, but still no play at Headingley - it's a tragedy.

Me and my dad worked out you could put all the worlds people on the Isle of Wight, with loads of room left - 142 sq miles IIRC.

And - there are more people alive now than have ever died, which knocks the reincarnation theory into a cocked hat, where do the extra Souls come from? Probably asylum-seeking Souls from other realms, like Middlesbrough...

[Casa]

Planet Zorg actually. I've had it on good authority...that's why so many posts these days are written in Klingon. They're offering the option of taking the Life in the UK test in it.

[Wanderer]

Planet Zorg actually. I've had it on good authority...that's why so many posts these days are written in Klingon. They're offering the option of taking the Life in the UK test in it. :roll:

I've been to Planet Zorg, next to IKEA, the Zorgians have no body hair, green skin, and a different-shaped gearlever on the Honda Civic 1.2.

[LOVES_THE_UK]

I understand the points raised. I have tried here very seriously. Restraining orders only work with people who obey laws and rules. They don't work on people who think they are above the law....OR THEY ARE THE LAW THEMSELVES. The person has a position where it makes it easy to find out things that the average person could not and he used that to be harrassing. Trust me, I have done way over and above what the average person does to "disappear" in Canada. I've moved from Nova Scotia to Manitoba and changed my entire legal name. I am remarried. Please trust me when I say laws do not work really if someone is a nutter. I'm not sure why you think a new country would not solve things somewhat as in the UK he could not have my drivers licence pulled etc. He could not access my personal records as easily as he would have no status to do so. He could not easily contact friends of mine or employers or drive across the country. I would not have to avoid airports or concerts or other public places and events. I'll read more but I did not see adoption mentioned. Perhaps I am really screwed.....and stuck.

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

It is clear that a long holiday weekend is widely needed in this forum! Let a little sunshine in...

[LOVES_THE_UK]

I'm sorry I think some of my posts have offended people or made them think this was not a serious question. I really do not understand about the Klingons thing so I think people are maybe laughing and thinking my story is some wind up which it's not. Everything I wrote is from my heart and is VERY serious to me. I have read and read and searched for answers and was so hoping someone here would have some ideas or answers. I guess I was looking for support which is likely not what this forum is intended for...I'm just afraid and worried for the future.

Yes Canada is big but it's not that easy to really be left alone if someone is persistant. If restraining orders worked you would have no battered women ending up murdered and no stalkers would be able to "get" their victims. Legal and "easy" remedies only work with "normal" thinking people and normal thinking people don't bother someone for 5 years when they have moved on and remarried. We have moved 3 times from Nova Scotia to Ontario, then to BC then to Manitoba. I have unlisted numbers that he keeps getting. I've cut off ties with old friends and most my family is deceased so he is not getting info from them. I know he is using his position and his pals to get to me. My current husband is fed up with moving and refuses to leave Canada as I said, he is from the UK and made a choice to move here because he doesn't like living in the UK so he doesn't want to go back. If I push him, he will only come to resent me so why push him? So I am either stuck here with things like they are....having my life messed with all the time...cell phone cut off....getting stopped by the police.....having fake complaints filed against me at my job (nothing serious,I'm a sales clerk but enough to embarrass me such as saying I was staring at someones disabled child etc....enough to get me in trouble or make managers look funny at me-he was actually CAUGHT doing this 4 times because of call display so please don't suggest I am paranoid or that the complaints were legitimate but while he was "caught" nothing was done to him and all it got me was bawled out by my manager for bringing my personal problems to my job).....or else I leave and start over AGAIN. Perhaps I am being stupid but I was just not ready to give up....and he is not going to give up...clearly as this has been YEARS. I just hoped more distance would make it harder for him. At least he could not have me harrassed by his "buddies". I'm not paranoid...all this has happened....everyone knows....his bosses etc but it seems they are quite powerless to stop him until he actually does something violent that is witnessed or there is great proof of. I've had lots of legal advise and the most that the lawyers seem to say is to try to just get as far away as possible. The UK would be more beyond his reach and much harder for him to contact people and keep tabs on me and my doings. I did not intend to come to this forum and whine but I am trying to make it clear why I need to do this. I have thought about it seriously, trust me, this is no whime. It means leaving behind a husband that I do love but I understand his right to live where he wants and as I said he has moved 3 times already and enough is enough. He cannot, at his age, keep getting new jobs and losing out because of me.

[PaperPusher]

LOVES THE UK

I do not think any offence was meant towards you. We like to help, but I think people are getting excited about the bank holiday weekend and the possible sunny weather.

See this:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... les/part5/

Persons with United Kingdom ancestry
Requirements for leave to enter on the grounds of United Kingdom ancestry
186. The requirements to be met by a person seeking leave to enter the United Kingdom on the grounds of his United Kingdom ancestry are that he:

(i) is a Commonwealth citizen; and

(ii) is aged 17 or over; and

(iii) is able to provide proof that one of his grandparents was born in the United Kingdom and Islands and that any such grandparent is the applicant's blood grandparent or grandparent by reason of an adoption recognised by the laws of the United Kingdom relating to adoption; and

(iv) is able to work and intends to take or seek employment in the United Kingdom; and

(v) will be able to maintain and accommodate himself and any dependants adequately without recourse to public funds; and

(vi) holds a valid United Kingdom entry clearance for entry in this capacity.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

3.3. Adoption
An applicant who has been adopted or whose parents were, can qualify if:
♦ he has been adopted by someone who has a United Kingdom born parent; or
♦ one of his parents was adopted by a person born in the United Kingdom; or
♦ his natural grandparents were born in the United Kingdom.
Note: There is no claim to United Kingdom ancestry through step-parents.

I would consider contacting a women's advocacy organisation however, even if it is just for coping strategies. People should not be allowed to get away with that sort of thing.

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

I agree. A number of people were being silly, but that is more the energy in the air than anything else. It really is a long weekend coming, as we did not get Victoria day weekend!

People are trying to seriously help, as I think you can see from the various posts.

[LOVES_THE_UK]

I guess I didn't understand the joke or lightheartedness. I thought perhaps people thought I was playing around. Regardless, I do appreciate all the help and advise so I am truly grateful and wish you all sunshine and the best possible weekend. Here, the sun is out and it's lovely yet still cool enough to be very comfortable. It can get very hot and dry.
Thank you everyone....I am just so hopeful that my move will be possible somehow.