IrishTom wrote:IntheQ wrote:
A friend of mine who is married to a Guard told me that DOJ treats applications based on Nationalities. Some are considered high risk than others. Don't know how much of this is true though
My friends grannies mates goldfish says...
Unlike the asylum seekers get free cars and gaffs myth, this one, I hope, has an element of truth to it. For example, your average American has no real benefit in obtaining Irish citizenship. Unless he wants to work in an EU member state. Remember, Americans can visit all EU 27 member states for 90 days without a visa.
Now compare that your average middle class Nigerian(who are here for the welfare, 62% of Nigerian adults in the Irish state are on the social). Of course the Irish government should scrutinise certain nationalities applications more so than others.
Its simple cop on.
First off, I would rather have this discussion on a separate thread as it could potentially derail the focus of this great thread.
That said, the problem with such monochromatic, jaundiced view as yours is that it will always be difficult to make you see the bigger picture. What you still haven't got and I doubt if you are ever interested in getting anything, is that facial profiling and penalizing everyone, most of whom are hard working tax paying members of the Irish society is a stone age mentality to solving problem.
I would gladly volunteer more tax to overhaul the social welfare system, up-skill the semi illiterate civil servants that run our government departments, put in place a system that is efficient and customer focused, rather than targeting a group of people and festering stereotypes. It is an easy strategy that has been proven many times to solve no problem other than to appease to the deep seated insecurity and bigoted perspective of some people on people mobility.
The Irish government had every opportunity and wherewithal to make social welfare less attractive viz-a-viz a complete overhaul during the boom time, what did we have? The Bertie Ahern treatment - throw more money in and postpone Armageddon, so here we are now.
A couple of questions for you dude:
1) Do you know many of those waiting for naturalization since 20005-2006 have continued to provide hard documentary evidence of tax compliance to INIS on a yearly basis, and yet their applications are being ignored?
2) Have you taken time to read most of the submission on this thread and accounts of people who INIS were waiting on their social welfare report for months if not years and when the individuals contacted Dept of SW themselves they got the report in less that 2 working days?
Time for Ireland to cop on (to use your own words) and realize that cold shoulder treatment, institutional beloved or by God spreading lovely on internet forums for that matter is no way to deal with the reality of 21st century global community in which Ireland has found itself in and dare I say has profited hugely from.
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