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Which Visa

Post by Gentile81 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:32 pm

My wife lives in Uzbekistan,
I live in the UK. We both have trawled the UKBA Site and have been unable to establish which visa to apply for. She wants to work on arrival here. She has a month left on a visit visa, she is back in Uzbekistan and so far we have been advised by three different departments, British Embassy and UKBA three different visas

Settlement Visa or Family permit or Family reunion

I seem to have lost altogether mention of the Spouse visa since the online application process

I would appreciate any advice,

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Post by Wanderer » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:38 pm

Easy. Spouse Visa, no doubt.

On ur list it's the Settlement visa, £485 possibly a bit more now. Family Permit is for those applying under EEA rules, it's free, but you don't seem to qualify unless you live in Europe or have dual EU citizenship. The Family Reunion visa is for Asylum seekers families I think, most likely free too.......

She should apply at the nearest UK embassy, in Tashkent I think.

Don't come on the one month remaining on the visit visa and expect to change in UK, it's expressly not allowed.
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Which visa

Post by Gentile81 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:39 pm

Thanks for the help

It seems that the visa name changes from time to time

for your info Brit Emb Tashkent spouse visa $1024

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Post by batleykhan » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:29 am

http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/resources/en/ ... 3073/vaf4a

Here is teh application form you will need to complete for your spouse :wink:

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Thanks,

Post by Gentile81 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:24 am

batleykhan wrote:http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/resources/en/ ... 3073/vaf4a

Here is teh application form you will need to complete for your spouse :wink:
Thank you for the reply, we have already started to go down the route of the Spouse (settlement) Visa

The embassy in Tashkent now uses the online application, we have used this system four times already, it seems to change the questions as the form is filled in,

Out of interest on the Spouse/ settlement visa, they ask for supporting information on how we have kept in contact phone records etc, do you have any ideas as we have letters, msn, voip, for example. Do you have any ideas

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Post by batleykhan » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:39 am

Out of interest on the Spouse/ settlement visa, they ask for supporting information on how we have kept in contact phone records etc, do you have any ideas as we have letters, msn, voip, for example. Do you have any ideas
Letters, emails,phone calls,voip are all acceptable providing you can produce such thingss ( or evidnece ) of it

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Post by Gentile81 » Sun May 23, 2010 4:44 pm

batleykhan wrote:
Out of interest on the Spouse/ settlement visa, they ask for supporting information on how we have kept in contact phone records etc, do you have any ideas as we have letters, msn, voip, for example. Do you have any ideas
Letters, emails,phone calls,voip are all acceptable providing you can produce such thingss ( or evidnece ) of it
I have ran into a problem of the child settlement visa for my wifes daughter, my step daughter, There are a short list of options for reason to visit uk
these are the options - could anyone help mehusband
wife
unmarriage partner
marriage
proposed civil partnership
civil partnership
child or other dependant of settled Person
parent, grandparent and other dependant relative
returning resident
family reunion
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Re: Which visa

Post by mrlookforward » Sun May 23, 2010 5:53 pm

Gentile81 wrote:Thanks for the help

It seems that the visa name changes from time to time

for your info Brit Emb Tashkent spouse visa $1024
The visa hasnt changed name for past 99 years I think.

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Post by mrlookforward » Sun May 23, 2010 5:55 pm

Gentile81 wrote:
batleykhan wrote:
Out of interest on the Spouse/ settlement visa, they ask for supporting information on how we have kept in contact phone records etc, do you have any ideas as we have letters, msn, voip, for example. Do you have any ideas
Letters, emails,phone calls,voip are all acceptable providing you can produce such thingss ( or evidnece ) of it
I have ran into a problem of the child settlement visa for my wifes daughter, my step daughter, There are a short list of options for reason to visit uk
these are the options - could anyone help mehusband
wife
unmarriage partner
marriage
proposed civil partnership
civil partnership
child or other dependant of settled Person
parent, grandparent and other dependant relative
returning resident
family reunion
Former UK Armed Forces

Thanks Mark
what exactly is the problem?

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Settlement visa for child

Post by Gentile81 » Mon May 24, 2010 3:13 pm

My wife is filling out the settlement visa form for her daughter, 7 years old - my stepdaughter to come to the UK, we have stumbled on this question. As my wife is the primary for her daughter, and they will be living in the UK - who should fill out the Sponsorship undertaking form, my wife or myself. Obviously I am sponsoring my wife, but who sponsors the daughter

The embassy in question aer not returning any calls

Thank you
Mark

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Re: Settlement visa for child

Post by Wanderer » Mon May 24, 2010 4:19 pm

Gentile81 wrote:My wife is filling out the settlement visa form for her daughter, 7 years old - my stepdaughter to come to the UK, we have stumbled on this question. As my wife is the primary for her daughter, and they will be living in the UK - who should fill out the Sponsorship undertaking form, my wife or myself. Obviously I am sponsoring my wife, but who sponsors the daughter

The embassy in question aer not returning any calls

Thank you
Mark
Does ur wife have sole custody via both permission from father (or death cert of same) and court order? If UZ follows Soviet system as I think it does u'll need both, otherwise the Uzbeki authorities will not let the child leave and the UK authorities will not accept the settlement visa.
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Re: Settlement visa for child

Post by Gentile81 » Mon May 24, 2010 4:28 pm

Wanderer wrote:
Gentile81 wrote:My wife is filling out the settlement visa form for her daughter, 7 years old - my stepdaughter to come to the UK, we have stumbled on this question. As my wife is the primary for her daughter, and they will be living in the UK - who should fill out the Sponsorship undertaking form, my wife or myself. Obviously I am sponsoring my wife, but who sponsors the daughter

The embassy in question aer not returning any calls

Thank you
Mark
Does ur wife have sole custody via both permission from father (or death cert of same) and court order? If UZ follows Soviet system as I think it does u'll need both, otherwise the Uzbeki authorities will not let the child leave and the UK authorities will not accept the settlement visa.


Hi We have the consent from the father who no longer lives in Uz, and we have a power of attorney from hime, also the original divorce papers where custoday handed to my wife.

We have all the right documents but this settlement for the daughter is a problem as we have just answered the first question and typed type of application settlement and then it asks child or other dependant relative, then it asks for the sponsor and as my wife is the primary carer we are not sure who should be the sponsor, me or the wife

Thanks for the assistance with your reply

Mark

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Re: Settlement visa for child

Post by Wanderer » Mon May 24, 2010 5:46 pm

Gentile81 wrote:
Wanderer wrote:
Gentile81 wrote:My wife is filling out the settlement visa form for her daughter, 7 years old - my stepdaughter to come to the UK, we have stumbled on this question. As my wife is the primary for her daughter, and they will be living in the UK - who should fill out the Sponsorship undertaking form, my wife or myself. Obviously I am sponsoring my wife, but who sponsors the daughter

The embassy in question aer not returning any calls

Thank you
Mark
Does ur wife have sole custody via both permission from father (or death cert of same) and court order? If UZ follows Soviet system as I think it does u'll need both, otherwise the Uzbeki authorities will not let the child leave and the UK authorities will not accept the settlement visa.


Hi We have the consent from the father who no longer lives in Uz, and we have a power of attorney from hime, also the original divorce papers where custoday handed to my wife.

We have all the right documents but this settlement for the daughter is a problem as we have just answered the first question and typed type of application settlement and then it asks child or other dependant relative, then it asks for the sponsor and as my wife is the primary carer we are not sure who should be the sponsor, me or the wife

Thanks for the assistance with your reply

Mark
Knowing what I know about Former Soviet states and their requirements and what most States require anyway is a Court Order proving you can remove the child, suggest you clear that up first...
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Settlement

Post by Gentile81 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:54 pm

It has been a while waiting for a decision from the embassy and today - they called the wife and asked her to come and collect documents next week, they would not discuss the result of the application over the phone.

We have everything crossed, I guess there is nothing to read into this as it was the same when she came here last year. Thanks for the help

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Visa refusal

Post by Gentile81 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:06 pm

Can anyone help, my wife has been granted a settlement visa - the application for the daughter has been refused stating
That although she has written consent from her father to leave to England, she has not provided enough evidence to demonstrate that her mother has sole responsibility - Para 2.9.7

Until then a visa cannot be issued

obviously we are going to appeal as soon as possible - What should we do to demonstrate that my wife has sole responsibility for the daughter
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Re: Visa refusal

Post by Wanderer » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:19 pm

Gentile81 wrote:Can anyone help, my wife has been granted a settlement visa - the application for the daughter has been refused stating
That although she has written consent from her father to leave to England, she has not provided enough evidence to demonstrate that her mother has sole responsibility - Para 2.9.7

Until then a visa cannot be issued

obviously we are going to appeal as soon as possible - What should we do to demonstrate that my wife has sole responsibility for the daughter
Thanks Mark
Like I said upthread, a Court Order, thought this might happen. Don't think you can appeal since the refusal appears correct. Quicker to reapply in any case.
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daughter

Post by Gentile81 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:27 pm

The form say that my wife can appeal,

What would be the wording on this type of court order

for example that my wife has sole responsibility to care for and maintain the health and welfare for her daughter

The courts in Uzbekistan are very tricky

I am just not sure what these guys need, I have checked para 297

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Re: daughter

Post by Wanderer » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:19 pm

Gentile81 wrote:The form say that my wife can appeal,

What would be the wording on this type of court order

for example that my wife has sole responsibility to care for and maintain the health and welfare for her daughter

The courts in Uzbekistan are very tricky

I am just not sure what these guys need, I have checked para 297

Thanks mark
Fair enough, but appeals take ages, like months to a year if not more with a difficult case.

If UZ is still Soviet in it's laws they authorities wouldn't let the child leave without this order, so you need it really.

Ask ur missus if she can get it 'po blatu' ie via 'contacts' - with a bit of a bung. I know I'll get slaughtered for suggesting that but sometimes it's the only way in corrupt states like the former Soviet Republics.
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Post by Gentile81 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:26 pm

Thanks Wanderer

I will add some specifics, so my wifes ex left Uzbek to Russia in 2006 they were officially divorced. I have had a look around and it seems that all ECo's need the court order. The unusual practice of sweetening is rife in Uxbek. I just hope that the Brit Embassy will accept this court order. I can think of no other way to support the appeal, I had a thought to obtain letters from relatives and to write a letter with the appeal outlining events - My wifes ex did submit a POA and a letter of consent but obviously this was not enough. Would there be any other documents I could submit.

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Can anyone help

Post by Gentile81 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:39 pm

My wifes visa for settlement was issued on the 7th July. I have the problem of my stepdaughters being refused. Because my wife could not prove sole responsibility. So already my wife is eating into the 27 months. We have tried to cntact her ex who is somewhere in Russia with no success with regards to parental rights, so I have decided that we should try to get the schools doctors english teachers etc to submit letters staing they have only ever dealt with my wife in Uzbekistan. If we send the documents that we are getting translated with a letter to the ECO and the forms for appeal - we will not be able to resubmit the application with those docs. If we appeal we will lose the docs and the appeal process will take so long that we will have additional problems achieveing the 2 years resibency in the UK for ILR Is there a chance that ECO's will respond to phone calls. Either way it seems I need assistance legally, can anyone help

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Re: Can anyone help

Post by Wanderer » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:51 pm

Gentile81 wrote:My wifes visa for settlement was issued on the 7th July. I have the problem of my stepdaughters being refused. Because my wife could not prove sole responsibility. So already my wife is eating into the 27 months. We have tried to cntact her ex who is somewhere in Russia with no success with regards to parental rights, so I have decided that we should try to get the schools doctors english teachers etc to submit letters staing they have only ever dealt with my wife in Uzbekistan. If we send the documents that we are getting translated with a letter to the ECO and the forms for appeal - we will not be able to resubmit the application with those docs. If we appeal we will lose the docs and the appeal process will take so long that we will have additional problems achieveing the 2 years resibency in the UK for ILR Is there a chance that ECO's will respond to phone calls. Either way it seems I need assistance legally, can anyone help
Think ur gonna need the court order mate, however you get one. The ECO's aren't going to accept anything else in lieu plus I'm pretty sure the UZ officials at the port of exit won't let the kid leave without the correct 'dokumenty' or even maybe an UZ exit stamp both for the kid and missus. I know in Ukr you need those when leaving permanently, maybe the Stans too?
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We have success

Post by Gentile81 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:44 pm

Thank you for the assistance we have won the appeal and my wife has been asked by the embassy for the pass to attch the visas.Thanks Mark

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