Overstay = 'no right to appeal', not 'no chance to succeed'?

[ryann]

as of my own experience, UKBA does not reject any application on the ground 'overstaying', The only thing they mention overstay in the refusal letter is to tell you 'you have no right to appeal'. So generally, if someone overstayed his visa and send a fresh app, he would still have good chance to succeed if he got every other documents perfect.

Am i right?

ps. I knew some of overstayers got their visa renewed recently(including me), and some are refused due to photo problems or bank statement issues, but none of them was about overstaying (they dont say 'not satisfied because u r overstaying, only say 'you made a application after ur visa expired, you have no right to appeal' after they gave the reason of refusal... seems strange.

[ElenaW]

'you made a application after ur visa expired, you have no right to appeal'

This means that the applicant overstayed. It's just different wording. There is no appeal because they are classed as an overstayer at that point.

[potterbond007]

as of my own experience, UKBA does not reject any application on the ground 'overstaying', The only thing they mention overstay in the refusal letter is to tell you 'you have no right to appeal'. So generally, if someone overstayed his visa and send a fresh app, he would still have good chance to succeed if he got every other documents perfect.

Am i right?

ps. I knew some of overstayers got their visa renewed recently(including me), and some are refused due to photo problems or bank statement issues, but none of them was about overstaying (they dont say 'not satisfied because u r overstaying, only say 'you made a application after ur visa expired, you have no right to appeal' after they gave the reason of refusal... seems strange.

I have been refused once for overstaying. However, I proved in my admin review that I did not..