base salary for a programmer with 5-yr experience in London?

zzyy · Post by **zzyy** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:58 pm

What's the normal base salary for a programmer with 5-yr experience in non-financial company, such as telecom software, in London?

vin123 · Post by **vin123** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:15 pm

You can find an average figure by keying in your core telecom skills in jobsites like jobserve, jobboardsit etc.
If you hit 200K pa, then its time to retire

zzyy · Post by **zzyy** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:11 pm

vin123 wrote:If you hit 200K pa, then its time to retire

You are kidding. I'd like to know how many programmers earn £50k+ in non-financial companies in London. Seems the pay in London is lower, and the expense is higher compared with New York. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Sher · Post by **Sher** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:19 am

zzyy wrote:
vin123 wrote:If you hit 200K pa, then its time to retire
You are kidding. I'd like to know how many programmers earn £50k+ in non-financial companies in London. Seems the pay in London is lower, and the expense is higher compared with New York. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Very likely. My research seems to bear that out too, although I haven't lived in the UK

NationOne · Post by **NationOne** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:31 pm

Well, if you start contracting you can get around £300 a day, which works out to nearly 80K a year. I am talking about programming in a non-finance role with 5 years of experience. I've been doing this for a while and it's almost like a permanent job in all respects, but with double the pay!

first2last4 · Post by **first2last4** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:53 pm

Not to forget to deduct a handsome tax + NI before arriving at the net pay.

webhunter · Post by **webhunter** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:11 am

There are very few jobs out here (permanent positions) which can pay you above 50.

From what i know, you can expect around 36 K ( assuming you are lucky to find one).

philgeorge999 · Post by **philgeorge999** » Mon May 01, 2006 12:24 am

Finance positions do! Our new grads *start* on just under 40K.

webhunter wrote:There are very few jobs out here (permanent positions) which can pay you above 50.

From what i know, you can expect around 36 K ( assuming you are lucky to find one).

lanwarrior · Post by **lanwarrior** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:40 am

Security and Audit type of job pays pretty well, around £50-60K based on my research. This is on par with US salary too (around US$ 100K).

rkc · Post by **rkc** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:10 pm

Finance positions do! Our new grads *start* on just under 40K.

webhunter wrote:
There are very few jobs out here (permanent positions) which can pay you above 50.

From what i know, you can expect around 36 K ( assuming you are lucky to find one).

Any specific reason for this inconsistency? isnt IT amongst the top paying professions in UK? I was not aware of the pay in the financial software related line untill recently, but was quite shocked to see the huge difference between non-finance software and finance related IT jobs. For instance, there is a big difference even between a niche domain such as telecomm/wireless/mobile - seems pretty frustrating

Atleast in India, from where i come, this sector has among the best salaries to offer which leaves me in two minds now

(kidding).

regards

goose182 · Post by **goose182** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:04 am

first2last4 wrote:Not to forget to deduct a handsome tax + NI before arriving at the net pay.

Go the managed or limited company route if you're contracting. I just moved from Umbrella Company to Managed Company and increased my Net by 50%.

timefactor · Post by **timefactor** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:11 pm

Telecom / VoIP skills have very high demand. you should be earning in the range of £45-50k for permenant job or as another member said, £300 per day.

sjgul · Post by **sjgul** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:10 pm

Hi,

I have only been able to get a offer for £ 34K with an experience of about 7 years in Telecom , It is hard to get more salaries in this part of world.

I believe US is more better in salary terms but again it has its own issues.

Cheers,
sjgul.

lanwarrior · Post by **lanwarrior** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:14 pm

Hey guys,

I am just wondering: when you got the job, is the salary more or less the same as the one shown in the job adverts itself?

burlagadda · Post by **burlagadda** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:13 pm

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:40 am Post subject: Reply with quote
Security and Audit type of job pays pretty well, around £50-60K based on my research. This is on par with US salary too (around US$ 100K).

Can you provide more details on Security & audit type jobs if you know any?

any pointers will be also helpful to look in detail

Thanks

lanwarrior · Post by **lanwarrior** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:20 pm

It's somethine of a combinatin of penetration and vulnerability testing at network and applicaiton layer for PCI compliant and IT audit based on BS 27001, SOX, and WebTrust.

sjgul · Post by **sjgul** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:26 pm

Lanwarrior,

When saying as per adverts, the ads shows the salary range to be very wide £ 35 - £50 K, but when it comes to pay out, Indian software professionals to start in UK are hired at the lowest ot this range and could be bargained easily. Sometimes, we are the best preferred as with quality experience and low cost, we are the most preffered.

I still don't understand the high difference between Financial and Non-Financial salaries, but I infer this conclusion:- if a non-Financial software engineer has to earn US salaries in UK , better is to move to the Financial domain as Teleco companies are not in any good condition to pay at that par , This is however in complete contrast to US where now a days USD 120K is becoming very common. However again, US has GrrenCard delays and a long process of Citizenship which is also very cosly as compared to UK Citizenship.

I believe the discussion is endless.

Cheers,
sjgul.

lanwarrior · Post by **lanwarrior** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:31 pm

FYI, telco companies in US is paying less too nowadays..

sjgul · Post by **sjgul** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:30 pm

Well I believe thats not true, I have friends both in UK and US.

Ones in US Telecom and Networking getting well above USD 120K + and the figures daily increasing. Ones in UK struggling to get even £ 40K.

The simple reason is that IT Non-Financial companies are not too much as compared to US resulting in a heavy demand-supply ratio and putting much pressure on salaries.

lanwarrior · Post by **lanwarrior** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:14 pm

I too have both firends in UK and US> It really depends on which company, experience, etc to define the salary. My friend is a manager in AT&T and they're paying the Java Developer about $80K.

Either way, can't beat US when it comes to IT job, especially in Silicon Valley

NationOne · Post by **NationOne** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:57 am

Guys go for contracting, you can easily top 75K per annum and in some cases even 100K

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base salary for a programmer with 5-yr experience in London?

base salary for a programmer with 5-yr experience in London?