Earnings from more than one country

[ganesh46]

Hi,

Could someone plz advice me on this:

I stayed in Canada from Jan 2010 to March 2010. I traveled on Business Visa which you all know is for Business Discussions and an individual is not permitted to work under this.

As the trip was for business discussions, I was paid daily allowances in Canadian dollars and regular Indian salary credited to my Indian account. Can I uplift this Indian salary?

This, I have taken from tier 1 guidance form (page 24). It looks as if one has to apply the appropriate uplift ratio, if his/her earnings are from multiple countries.

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133. Where an applicant has earnings from more than one country, the points based calculator will apply the appropriate uplift ratio for each country in which the relevant earnings were made in order to provide a total UK equivalent value of earnings.
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But I heard responses from people stating that one cannot uplift his earnings if he is not physically present in the country of earnings.

All this got me confused and your suggestion is highly appreciated.

As my Canadian Visa (B1) says that I am was not permitted to work. Will there be a change in the stance on how my earnings would be considered.

Thanks a lot for help.

Cheers,
Gan

[ganesh46]

Hi,

Could someone plz advice me on this:

I stayed in Canada from Jan 2010 to March 2010. I traveled on Business Visa which you all know is for Business Discussions and an individual is not permitted to work under this.

As the trip was for business discussions, I was paid daily allowances in Canadian dollars and regular Indian salary credited to my Indian account. Can I uplift this Indian salary?

This, I have taken from tier 1 guidance form (page 24). It looks as if one has to apply the appropriate uplift ratio, if his/her earnings are from multiple countries.

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133. Where an applicant has earnings from more than one country, the points based calculator will apply the appropriate uplift ratio for each country in which the relevant earnings were made in order to provide a total UK equivalent value of earnings.
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But I heard responses from people stating that one cannot uplift his earnings if he is not physically present in the country of earnings.

All this got me confused and your suggestion is highly appreciated.

As my Canadian Visa (B1) says that I am was not permitted to work. Will there be a change in the stance on how my earnings would be considered.

Thanks a lot for help.

Cheers,
Gan

Can somebody plz answer this?

Thanks,
Gan

[push]

You "earn" income where you work and not where your salary is Banked. If you are working on an assignment in Canada and are paid in US (being an employee of a US based company) you are earning your salary in Canada and therefore the uplift factor, if any, will be for Canada and not US.

In your case as you were not working in Canada (as you were not authorised to work in the first instance) and were actually working for an India based company (given that you were representing them in discussions in Canada) your earnings should be treated as being earned in India and therefore you should be ok to use the uplift factor for India.

[ganesh46]

You "earn" income where you work and not where your salary is Banked. If you are working on an assignment in Canada and are paid in US (being an employee of a US based company) you are earning your salary in Canada and therefore the uplift factor, if any, will be for Canada and not US.

In your case as you were not working in Canada (as you were not authorised to work in the first instance) and were actually working for an India based company (given that you were representing them in discussions in Canada) your earnings should be treated as being earned in India and therefore you should be ok to use the uplift factor for India.

Thanks Push, your words gave me confidence and dragged me out of confusion that had been surrounding me for quite some time.

If I can uplift my Indian salary, do i need to state the explanation to case worker in the application or cover letter.

Cheers,
Gan

[push]

Do you even need to disclose that you were in Canada during the said period? I mean it was a Business Visit trip (as I said you were not employed there)? Would you have mentioned it if you were in Canada for a 2 month vacation?

I am not advising you to hide any information but adding information which seems not relevant to the case is counter productive at times. Would you not qualify if you didnt include your Canada per-diem? Is the allowance mentioned on your pay stubs? If not, steer clear of including any information re the same.

[ganesh46]

Do you even need to disclose that you were in Canada during the said period? I mean it was a Business Visit trip (as I said you were not employed there)? Would you have mentioned it if you were in Canada for a 2 month vacation?

I am not advising you to hide any information but adding information which seems not relevant to the case is counter productive at times. Would you not qualify if you didnt include your Canada per-diem? Is the allowance mentioned on your pay stubs? If not, steer clear of including any information re the same.

Hi Push,

I don't have any idea whether to make a mention about Canada trip or not, if it was for Business Discussions. I would request you to suggest something on this.

Allowances were not mentioned anywhere on my Indian payslips. And also no payslips specifically for allowances were given to me. So, I am not going or will not be able to show my Canadian allowances. And I would not qualify without uplifting my Indian salary for these 3 months.

I was given a letter (dated around 29-12-2009) with my name and photo, on my company letterhead stating that my trip was for Business Discussions/Training. That letter is still with me. Will this serve the purpose

Also could you plz explain what you meany by this "If not, steer clear of including any information re the same."

Again, Thanks a lot push.

Cheers,
Gan

[ganesh46]

Do you even need to disclose that you were in Canada during the said period? I mean it was a Business Visit trip (as I said you were not employed there)? Would you have mentioned it if you were in Canada for a 2 month vacation?

I am not advising you to hide any information but adding information which seems not relevant to the case is counter productive at times. Would you not qualify if you didnt include your Canada per-diem? Is the allowance mentioned on your pay stubs? If not, steer clear of including any information re the same.

Hi Push,

I don't have any idea whether to make a mention about Canada trip or not, if it was for Business Discussions. I would request you to suggest something on this.

Allowances were not mentioned anywhere on my Indian payslips. And also no payslips specifically for allowances were given to me. So, I am not going or will not be able to show my Canadian allowances. And I would not qualify without uplifting my Indian salary for these 3 months.

I was given a letter (dated around 29-12-2009) with my name and photo, on my company letterhead stating that my trip was for Business Discussions/Training. That letter is still with me. Will this serve the purpose

Also could you plz explain what you meany by this "If not, steer clear of including any information re the same."

Again, Thanks a lot push.

Cheers,
Gan

Somebody plz answer my query.

Thanks,
Gan

[geriatrix]

Does the policy guidance state that any such letter (that you say you possess) will serve the purpose?


regards

[ganesh46]

Does the policy guidance state that any such letter (that you say you possess) will serve the purpose?


regards

I dont think there is any mention of such letter.

First of all, I would like to know, what the case worker would do after looking at my passport. I have Business Visas for both Canada and USA.

I traveled to Canada for a period of 86 days in the beginning of 2010. Will the caseworker worker treats this trip as Business - Visitor (as mention in my Canada Visa) trip and accepts the uplifted Indian salary for this period or rejects it?

Thanks for your time, Sushdmehta.

Cheers,
Gan

[geriatrix]

Is international travel - be it for personal or business reasons - not allowed during the 12 months for which earnings is being claimed? No! So why would caseworker suspect anything ... unless you give him a reason to suspect something!


regards

[ganesh46]

Is international travel - be it for personal or business reasons - not allowed during the 12 months for which earnings is being claimed? No! So why would caseworker suspect anything ... unless you give him a reason to suspect something!


regards

Thanks Sushdmehta for your quick response.

So, can I go ahead and just submit the proofs for Age, Salary, Education & Maintainence and leave the topic of canada Business vist without making any mention anywhere in my application.

[push]

Is international travel - be it for personal or business reasons - not allowed during the 12 months for which earnings is being claimed? No! So why would caseworker suspect anything ... unless you give him a reason to suspect something!


regards

Thanks Sushdmehta for your quick response.

So, can I go ahead and just submit the proofs for Age, Salary, Education & Maintainence and leave the topic of canada Business vist without making any mention anywhere in my application.

Yes thats what was told to you earlier. I dont really understand what the issue is?

[ganesh46]

Would you not qualify if you didnt include your Canada per-diem? Is the allowance mentioned on your pay stubs? If not, steer clear of including any information re the same.

I would qualify without Canada per-diem. Anyways there is no way to show my Canada per-diem as it was not mentioned anywhere in my payslips. Thought of confirming with out whether you want me to go ahead without making a mention of Business Trip (and uplift my Indian salary during the said period by 5.3) if the allowances are not part of my payslips (As said earlier, allowances are not part of my payslips).

But from your and sushdmehta responses, I believe I can go ahead.

Thanks for help. I dont want to take much of your time. So, plz respond by saying Yes if my understanding is correct. Otherwise request you to give more clarity on the same.

Cheers,
Gan

[push]

Would you not qualify if you didnt include your Canada per-diem? Is the allowance mentioned on your pay stubs? If not, steer clear of including any information re the same.

I would qualify without Canada per-diem. Anyways there is no way to show my Canada per-diem as it was not mentioned anywhere in my payslips. Thought of confirming with out whether you want me to go ahead without making a mention of Business Trip (and uplift my Indian salary during the said period by 5.3) if the allowances are not part of my payslips (As said earlier, allowances are not part of my payslips).

But from your and sushdmehta responses, I believe I can go ahead.

Thanks for help. I dont want to take much of your time. So, plz respond by saying Yes if my understanding is correct. Otherwise request you to give more clarity on the same.

Cheers,
Gan

Yes

[ganesh46]

Would you not qualify if you didnt include your Canada per-diem? Is the allowance mentioned on your pay stubs? If not, steer clear of including any information re the same.

I would qualify without Canada per-diem. Anyways there is no way to show my Canada per-diem as it was not mentioned anywhere in my payslips. Thought of confirming with out whether you want me to go ahead without making a mention of Business Trip (and uplift my Indian salary during the said period by 5.3) if the allowances are not part of my payslips (As said earlier, allowances are not part of my payslips).

But from your and sushdmehta responses, I believe I can go ahead.

Thanks for help. I dont want to take much of your time. So, plz respond by saying Yes if my understanding is correct. Otherwise request you to give more clarity on the same.

Cheers,
Gan

Yes

Thanks Push and Sushdmehta for help.