fanadfilms wrote:"The death cert, does it say where someone was born?. Does it even mention a woman's maiden name? Does your parent's certs say where your grandmother is from? What will producing your parents driving licence achieve? Why didn't your own parents not avail of the rights? What objective proof is there that the person on her birth cert is the same person on the death cert? State Documents must contain no missing links. That is why you are where you are "
If you get a photocopy of the original, it has a wealth of information that you have obviously overlooked. On my grandmother's Death Cert, it has her parent's names, the place where they lived in Ireland (which is the same as on my grandmother's birth cert), and my grandmother's date of birth. Pretty good evidence.
Do not speak to me in such a condescending manner.
Hang on, I was asking you a number of questions and not trying to make a point nor trying to be condescending. I do not know what American death certs look like. I, thankfully have not seen too many death certs. That was the point of asking those particulars as it would solve your problems when you go and obtain the marriage cert. so it is obvious that i have not overlooked any relevant information as you say the death cert contains the suggested info needed
As for death cert, does the death cert have the maiden surname? ie same name as birth cert? where did your gran die? Again, what does producing parent's driving licence achieve?
I find it strange that you are still requested for more info, but if you are been asked, then so be it, you won't be the only one. Did your gran, ever revoke her citizenship? What year are we talking about by the way? post 1922?
Telling you what you should get, and telling you that you are not a special case and telling you that every one is required to obtain these documents regardless of what you have now, is not being condescending. Its your problem if you don't like what you are being told. Telling you to stop complaining and that you are not a case that requires special treatment is not been condescending. You are complainging over very legitimate and reasonable request for information. You are the one who made a retarded comment about the economy and "typical irish". Whilst it won't effect you, it is conceivable that in some cases, for what ever reason, marriage certs won't correspond with the documents one already has. Moreover, its a rely to you to drop the arrogant attitude.
Your in a handy position as these documents can be obtained. Your problem is trivial compared to others. So as Mr T says, quit your jiber jabber
Objectively, it does sound a little odd that your own family never claimed citizenship (is that correct) and it looks like there is now a gap and someone is chancing their arm, hence why the departments want all documents.again, you won't have too many problems
As further risk of sounding condensending a normal photocopy might not suffice. You will probably need an original copy/or attested genuine copy
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/mo ... scent.html
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/maga ... itizen.htm
"In the case of a family’s first registration in the FBR documentation is needed to prove entitlement.
To be registered, the potential citizen claiming citizenship through a foreign-born Irish parent and an Irish born grandparent, needs to produce their own birth certificate and (if applicable) their marriage certificate. They then need to produce the birth certificates and (if applicable) marriage certificates of their citizen parent and grandparent and an identity document (such as a driving licence) for each. Where the parent or grandparent is deceased a death certificate is needed in place of an identity document. "
