urgent: hsmp refused due to pgdiploma

[gs3987]

i m having a pg dipoma and got psw on dat basis but my application for hsmp got refused as uk naric refused to certify my pg diploma equivalent to bachelors degree as required. hsmp calculator was showing the points before i put my application but now its not showing. my application wasplaced on 28th of october. i received a refusal on 5th jan.
what shud i do now can i appeal against it as the calculator was showing the points before but not now...after i put the application.

please can someone suggest me what shud i do now.

what are the requirements for pg diploma tobe equivalent to bachelors degree. coz my certificate shows level7 printed on it..

[khanjaan]

i m having a pg dipoma and got psw on dat basis but my application for hsmp got refused as uk naric refused to certify my pg diploma equivalent to bachelors degree as required. hsmp calculator was showing the points before i put my application but now its not showing. my application wasplaced on 28th of october. i received a refusal on 5th jan.
what shud i do now can i appeal against it as the calculator was showing the points before but not now...after i put the application.

please can someone suggest me what shud i do now.

what are the requirements for pg diploma tobe equivalent to bachelors degree. coz my certificate shows level7 printed on it..

Have they gave you right to appeal .you have a really good chance to appeal brother

[mulderpf]

i m having a pg dipoma and got psw on dat basis but my application for hsmp got refused as uk naric refused to certify my pg diploma equivalent to bachelors degree as required. hsmp calculator was showing the points before i put my application but now its not showing. my application wasplaced on 28th of october. i received a refusal on 5th jan.
what shud i do now can i appeal against it as the calculator was showing the points before but not now...after i put the application.

please can someone suggest me what shud i do now.

what are the requirements for pg diploma tobe equivalent to bachelors degree. coz my certificate shows level7 printed on it..

The rules from the start of October stated that you had to submit a letter of comparability from NARIC in order for your application to be assessed - this it would seem was done so that they could clean up their database. It would appear you did not send this with your application.

Please can you give more details on the PGD?

[khanjaan]

i m having a pg dipoma and got psw on dat basis but my application for hsmp got refused as uk naric refused to certify my pg diploma equivalent to bachelors degree as required. hsmp calculator was showing the points before i put my application but now its not showing. my application wasplaced on 28th of october. i received a refusal on 5th jan.
what shud i do now can i appeal against it as the calculator was showing the points before but not now...after i put the application.

please can someone suggest me what shud i do now.

what are the requirements for pg diploma tobe equivalent to bachelors degree. coz my certificate shows level7 printed on it..

The rules from the start of October stated that you had to submit a letter of comparability from NARIC in order for your application to be assessed - this it would seem was done so that they could clean up their database. It would appear you did not send this with your application.

Please can you give more details on the PGD?

Home office put on there website on 15th of oct that from 12 of oct uk naric thing has started which is wrong and than they deleted that information that is not right aswell

[mulderpf]

Khanjaan, they only deleted the information after they cleaned up their database. You always apply with the rules which are in effect at the time - at the time, it was a requirement to send a NARIC letter with the application - the fact that they deleted it, simply means it's not a requirement for application's made today (you won't score points any way today).

Immigration law changes often - it's not only in this instance. Go read through the law - there are clauses and clauses which are all deleted. It doesn't mean that the law is now applied retrospectively - it simply reflects what is the law today. (E.g. if you were refused for reason xx and they removed it subsequently - that doesn't mean that it doesn't apply to you any more - it simply means they can't refuse based on xx anymore.).

[add_mah]

which college/univ you get your PGD from, On what basis your visa get rejected, what is the HO statement..

[gs3987]

i got my pg diploma from B.I.T.E. london. HO says naric refused to certify tht my qualification is not equivalent to bachelor/master/phd. as required for hsmp.

[khanjaan]

Khanjaan, they only deleted the information after they cleaned up their database. You always apply with the rules which are in effect at the time - at the time, it was a requirement to send a NARIC letter with the application - the fact that they deleted it, simply means it's not a requirement for application's made today (you won't score points any way today).

Immigration law changes often - it's not only in this instance. Go read through the law - there are clauses and clauses which are all deleted. It doesn't mean that the law is now applied retrospectively - it simply reflects what is the law today. (E.g. if you were refused for reason xx and they removed it subsequently - that doesn't mean that it doesn't apply to you any more - it simply means they can't refuse based on xx anymore.).

for example if i get the visa on appeal will you stop giving comments on immigration boards

[add_mah]

so did have you submitted tha NARIC letter,

[adamnator83]

so did have you submitted tha NARIC letter,

i have sumitted mine but not hoping that they will confirm pg diploma as i have heard many people can not get assessment.

[mulderpf]

for example if i get the visa on appeal will you stop giving comments on immigration boards

Dude, no need to get so defensive. I'm simply telling you how it works. If you don't like it, take it up with HO who makes the rules, not me.

Rules change all the time, and guess what, people end up just having to stick to the new rules, whether or not they like it. On 6 April, earnings bands changed, PhD's gave you less points. On 19 July, the points threshold went up. On 23 December they stopped accepting overseas applications.

Looking at the above, I can imagine that there might have been at least a couple of hundred people who were rejected due to changing rules and at least a percentage of them must have tried to appeal it - did they get it right? I doubt it.

You are in someone else's country - they get to make the rules, not you, not me, not even the seniors on this board.

[add_mah]

i have sumitted mine but not hoping that they will confirm pg diploma as i have heard many people can not get assessment.

My friend got Tier 1 today on basis of PG dip, he did his course from a reputed univ, he call in to NARIC to assess his degree but they said that they only assess PG dip degree for those who get it from COLLEGE’s not from UNIVERSITIES, so whoever is applying with PG dip (university) not need to worry and they could apply without NARIC letter,

Cheeru

[umerzahid10]

At paragraph 75 of Appendix A to the Immigration Rules (Attributes for Tier 1 (General) Migrants)) it is stated that points will be awarded for a qualification if, inter alia, the qualification is deemed by the UKBA in published guidance to meet the required standard

The Tier 1 (General) Policy Guidance (the published guidance) further states at paragraph 85 that applicants can and should check the level of their qualification by using the Points-Based System (PBS) calculator on the UKBA website. The Policy Guidance also confirms at paragraph 83 that the UKBA assesses the qualification by referring to the PBS calculator on its website and that the calculator contains information from UK NARIC.

The Tier 1 (General) application form has also been designed with the above provisions in mind. At J2 I was asked to state how I had verified my qualification and whether the qualification could be found on the PBS calculator.

[adamnator83]

i got my pg diploma from B.I.T.E. london. HO says naric refused to certify tht my qualification is not equivalent to bachelor/master/phd. as required for hsmp.

i was refused aswell : I have receivel letter from uk naric and they are writing that they are not able validate PG diploma level 7 from BITE.
Also have received email from UKBA:
Dear sir,
Thank you for email and questions you have raised in relation to the Points Based Calculator which has been passed to me to respond.

I can confirm that the Points Based Calculator was updated on 1 November 2010. One of these updates was to amend the points awarded for Post Graduate Diplomas as these should have been awarded 0 points rather than the 30 points incorrectly displayed on the calculator.

Prior to this, on 15 October, the UK Border Agency published a notice on the website informing potential applicants that with immediate effect, a letter of equivalency from NARIC should be provided if they were relying on a Post Graduate Diploma as part of their application. Failure to do so could result in a delay in the consideration of their application, and possibly a refusal.

I should point out that the web page containing the points calculator has a disclaimer stating that the points awarded on it cannot be used as a guarantee of a successful application as it is subject to change. The disclaimer states: The results produced by using this tool show your possible points score should you wish to apply, and do not guarantee a successful application. We will make a decision once we have received your full application and supporting evidence."

I hope this has addressed the points you have raised,

Kind regards

[mulderpf]

By the same logic, people who applied from overseas on the 23rd of December should also have been accepted, because the UKBA's site was not yet updated. All that appeared on the 23rd was a news article.

This can be said for several changes in rules in the past. The rules change, it's published as a news story, but the actual rules are sometimes not updated immediately and has to be posted as a news story. Does that invalidate the rules change because it was only published as a news story?

I don't think so...