HSMP APPLICATION REFUSED TWICE AND AWITING REVIEW

[1971]

Hi All,

My 1st application was refused in November, 2005 because I had a total score of 15 . I reapply again in April 2006 and refused again because I had a total score of 50. I have a universirt degree in Industrial mathematics fromn a University. And I got the 15 scores for Education on the 2 occassions.

I claimed the following points in my second application:
Education: 15 awarded 15
Work Experience: 25 awarded 0
Earning:35 awarded 35

I have 9 years exp. as seen below:

Company A xxxx - System Analyst (Jan. 1997 - May 1999)
Comnany B yyyy- Technical Sales Executive (July 1999-June 2001)
Company C www- Inventory Stock Controller (July2001-March 2003)
Company C zzzz- Business Analyst(April 2003- Till Date)

In my first application, I used the following details:

Comnany B yyyy- Technical Sales Executive (July 1999-June 2001)
Company C www- Inventory Stock Controller (July2001-March 2003)
Company C zzzz- Business Analyst(April 2003- Till Date)
My application was refused staing that my roles and responsibilities stated on Compamy Byyy and Company C www are not graduate level jobs,but my role as a Business Analyst in Company Czzz is considered graduate level. My salary slips and tax doc did not satisfy the caseworker and as such no score was awarded for that criteria.

Then I reapplied and had to collect a reference letter from an ex employer. See below:
Company A xxxx - System Analyst (Jan. 1997 - May 1999)
Comnany B yyyy- Technical Sales Executive (July 1999-June 2001)
Company C www- Inventory Stock Controller (July2001-March 2003)
Company C zzzz- Business Analyst(April 2003- Till Date)

I was alot worried cos it took about 3 months to get my decision in June 2006. I called the HSMP Team and they sent me a mail stating my scores and reason for refusal as same as the earlier decision.

So, based on this, I requested for review. Then the decision letter came and it stated a different reason - " the roles stated are not graduate level. They note the receipt of my reference letters. All the copies of my reference letters were not sent back to me and some of the job adverts in the U.K. and letters I got from some U.K. companies stating that my skills are required but I need to have the right paperworks,hence my applying for the HSMP.

But I took a look at one of my reference letters and saw that the letter started by my employer using "He" to describe me and leter in the detailed breakdown of job roles, they used "I". But in the decision, the caseworker did not state anything like that.

Please, can thios error by my previous employer make the caseworker keep the original copies of my reference letters, and will it affect my review request?

What are my chances of being favoured because I argued that my references are well detailed and that my roles as a business Analyst was well detailed. But I mentioned a little about the others because the reference letters are well detailed. And i also argued stating that reference should be made to the previous application where the caseworker claimed that the role was graduate level and the latter caseworker claimimg that it is not. I claimed that this is contradicting and that they should use their good office to assist.

Regards and best wishes.

Enjoy the rest of the week.

1971.

[olumighty]

1971,
Just wondering why the HSMP guys did not send some of your reference letters back. Were the references real? I feel your application taking about three months at that time might be because they wanted to confirm some of the references. So it is possible they discovered or suspected something phony and clamped down on it.
I believe also believe the caseworker no longer break down how scores were awarded for experience unlike before when they state which is graduate level and which is not.

Is there anyone that was refused initially based on experience and got it reversed after reapplying?

Cheer

[1971]

Olumighty,

All the references are real, except that in one of the letters, my employer made a mistake describing me as "He" earlier and later as "I". I think that is the only problem. What options do you think is available for me now?

Please, revert and enjoy the rest of the week.

Regards.
1971.

[pantaiema]

Dear 71
Apart from your Work Experience Letter. Did you submit hard evidence such as "Tax Documents", your bank stament/salary slip showing the money flow to your bank account?.
This is especially treu if you are not working in well know multi national companies

You need to remember that the decision to award point enterily depends on their believe. And we should not blame them too much becuase this is based on their experience in the past.

Pantaiema

Olumighty,

All the references are real, except that in one of the letters, my employer made a mistake describing me as "He" earlier and later as "I". I think that is the only problem. What options do you think is available for me now?

Please, revert and enjoy the rest of the week.

Regards.
1971.

[1971]

Dear pantaiema,

I included my 12 months Salary Slip,Bank Statement, Tax Docs, and all certificates. All original. But he wrote that " We are not satisfied that the description listed are graduate level. That graduate level experience should be a role performed with a U.K. degree or equivqlent. He agreed that my Bachelor's degree is o.k. bcos he awarded me the claimed score.

I called the HO yesterday and they confirme that my letter was gotten by Fax on 25 May, 2006 and it will take about 6-13 Weeks for a decision to be made.

But I am being hopeful cos all the docs submitted are real and genuine.

Thank you all.

Regards

Nineteen Seventy One.

[pantaiema]

Dear 1971
I really soory to hear about your case. You have already shown hard evedence.

If in every of your work refrence clearly mentioned that it is a graduate level work.

You just used your experience after finishing your study. Not before of while studying. (As I understand that your degree is recognised equivalnet to UK degree).

I think you should go for appeal.

Pantaiema

Dear pantaiema,

I included my 12 months Salary Slip,Bank Statement, Tax Docs, and all certificates. All original. But he wrote that " We are not satisfied that the description listed are graduate level. That graduate level experience should be a role performed with a U.K. degree or equivqlent. He agreed that my Bachelor's degree is o.k. bcos he awarded me the claimed score.

I called the HO yesterday and they confirme that my letter was gotten by Fax on 25 May, 2006 and it will take about 6-13 Weeks for a decision to be made.

But I am being hopeful cos all the docs submitted are real and genuine.

Thank you all.

Regards

Nineteen Seventy One.