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Earnings place not in the list of countries !

Post by sash11 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:26 am

Dear Seniors,

A tier 1 applicant has asked for help.

In his application, he has claimed points for earnings he had made while working at sea on the ship which was on world trade.
Since all the persons working there belonged to different places and as per employment contract were being paid as per their nationality/country of normal residence, so was he. Payments were made in dollars as standard currency to all of them in their accounts.

So when filling in the application he has written the place where the work was physically carried out as his country of nationality. Same he has used in points calculator since calculator does not offer any place like SEA or something like that, it needs the name of a country.

Now he has been asked to explain as where was he during that period & provide proofs for that.His passport shows that he was out of the country he claimed earnings for.

what proofs should he provide ? please suggest the best possible.

Thanks
Last edited by sash11 on Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:36 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Earnings place not in the list of countries !

Post by tier1_PEO_applicant » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:20 am

Hello,

Looking at the scenario in first place, it seems if he was paid in the currency of his nationality, he should get the paperwork from the employers/contractor with whom he did his shipping job assignment, and include as much information possible to explain his situation.

As far as the documentation is clear, he shouldn't have any problem, as it would also clarify the fact that he was out of port for the purpose of the job, just like a pilot who's flying to another country while performing his duties, but gets paid in the currency where he is stationed.

Hope this helps,
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sash11 wrote:Dear Seniors,

A tier 1 applicant has asked for help.

In his application, he has claimed points for earnings he had made while working at sea on the ship which was on world trade.
Since all the persons working there belonged to different places and as per employment contract were being paid as per their nationality/country of normal residence, so was he.

So when filling in the application he has written the place where the work was physically carried out as his country of nationality. Same he has used in points calculator since calculator does not offer any place like SEA or something like that, it needs the name of a country.

Now he has been asked to explain as where was he during that period & provide proofs for that, since his passport shows he was out of the country he claimed earnings for.

what proofs should he provide ? please suggest the best possible.

Thanks

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Post by sash11 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:44 am

Thanks for the comments.
He was paid in us dollars, i have just edited the text.
Any further guidance will be highly appreciated.
I am also waiting for guidance from seniors.

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Post by mulderpf » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:20 pm

Why is it relevant where he earned the money? Is he using it for UK experience points? Other than that, country of earnings isn't relevant for current Tier 1 (General) applicants.

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Post by Greenie » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:28 pm

mulderpf wrote:Why is it relevant where he earned the money? Is he using it for UK experience points? Other than that, country of earnings isn't relevant for current Tier 1 (General) applicants.
if it is an initial tier 1 application then the country of employment is relevant with regards to the uplift factor to be applied.

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Post by mulderpf » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:15 pm

Tier 1 has been closed since April for new application? Are there still open applications from then? There should only be extension applications on-going at the moment.

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Post by sash11 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:50 pm

Yes, it is tier 1 initial application which was made before 5th April 2011.

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:06 pm

The applicant needs to explain the nature of his "off-shore" employment. He will also need a letter from the employer to state so and to certify that the applicant is, for the purpose of employment and taxes, "based" in the country in question.

Evidence(s) that the applicant has been paying income tax in that country should also help prove to the caseworker that the applicant's "previous earnings" were generated in that country ... and that the country in question has not been chosen just for the purpose of taking advantage of the "uplift ratio".


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Post by sash11 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:36 pm

Thanks sushdmehta. you have very correctly picked the concern about uplift ratio, which is most important in the situation.

Another thing is, he heard about some guidelines/rules regarding "offshore jobs" i.e. work on oil rigs , ships, offshore installations etc. published by home office or on HO site, but cant find any.
Does any one know about it ? pls guide.

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Post by geriatrix » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:19 pm

sash11 wrote:Another thing is, he heard about some guidelines/rules regarding "offshore jobs" i.e. work on oil rigs , ships, offshore installations etc. published by home office or on HO site, but cant find any.
Does any one know about it ? pls guide.
AFAIK, there isn't any.
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