After EEA2 can i go to work in EUROP????

[berber]

Hi everyone.

i am on the stage where i am waiting for my RC after i received my CoA.
the question is: after if i will get my Residency Card could someone tel me what is the procedure if i want to go to live in Germany as my wife we thinking to move over there to here home country?

Thanks and good luck everyone

[Nimitta]

Hi everyone.

i am on the stage where i am waiting for my RC after i received my CoA.
the question is: after if i will get my Residency Card could someone tel me what is the procedure if i want to go to live in Germany as my wife we thinking to move over there to here home country?

It is tricky. In short, your Registration Card in UK won't help you in any way. You cannot even enter Germany without a visa.

Germany is your wife's home country. She is a citizen of Germany and you are her family member. Countries citizens comings and goings are governed by domestic immigration rules.

Since your wife has being exercising Treaty rights in the UK for some time, you might be able to enter Germany on the EEA route, and thus avoid passing German language proficiency exams and paying for visa and registration papers whatever they are. All spouses of German citizens should, you know. But, as far as I know, Germany even LESS knowledgeable about the Directive then the UK. They even do not know that EEA families are not required to pass language exams.

Anyway, theoretically, you have two options here: 1) enter Germany according to domestic immigration rules (tough) 2) enter Germany according to EU rules.

In any case, your UK registration card is of no use.

[Ken G]

Contrary to the advice given, Spouse and family members of an EU national, enjoy same rights as an EU national. You are free to travel to any country within EU with your spouse, without visa, although it may take some convincing the border guards and the airline that you do not need a visa. In any even, the visa is free for spouse of an EU national. Once you land in Germany, you can apply for a residence card there as well as long as your spouse is exercising treaty right.[/quote]

[Punjab]

You cannot even enter Germany without a visa.

you can enter Germany without visa if you are joing your wife or if she is travelling with you and if family member of EEA national etc is written on your visa. Once you are there you need to apply for a residency certificate for GERMANY. Uk residence document is not valid to work in that country. After you will have residency document from Germany you can work and travel with in Scehngen region without visa or without your partnetr but you can work ONLY in Germany with that as far as I am aware. After 3 years living together with your wife in Germany providing you were not dependent on their government etc you can apply fro PR. I am not sure if you will have to give exam for language or not .

[Punjab]

http://www.howtogermany.com/pages/residence.html


http://www.london.diplo.de/Vertretung/l ... seite.html



residency visa form


http://www.london.diplo.de/contentblob/ ... mit_DD.pdf

[86ti]

Once you land in Germany, you can apply for a residence card there as well as long as your spouse is exercising treaty right.

Not so if the Germans follow the Eind ruling as they are obliged to. The real question here is how the Germans have implemented the various court cases regarding returnees.

If I am not mistaken domestic immigration rules require proof of language skills at a certain level before first entry.

[rachellynn1972]

Hi everyone.

i am on the stage where i am waiting for my RC after i received my CoA.
the question is: after if i will get my Residency Card could someone tel me what is the procedure if i want to go to live in Germany as my wife we thinking to move over there to here home country?

It is tricky. In short, your Registration Card in UK won't help you in any way. You cannot even enter Germany without a visa.

Germany is your wife's home country. She is a citizen of Germany and you are her family member. Countries citizens comings and goings are governed by domestic immigration rules.

Since your wife has being exercising Treaty rights in the UK for some time, you might be able to enter Germany on the EEA route, and thus avoid passing German language proficiency exams and paying for visa and registration papers whatever they are. All spouses of German citizens should, you know. But, as far as I know, Germany even LESS knowledgeable about the Directive then the UK. They even do not know that EEA families are not required to pass language exams.

Anyway, theoretically, you have two options here: 1) enter Germany according to domestic immigration rules (tough) 2) enter Germany according to EU rules.

In any case, your UK registration card is of no use.

I will advice you to follow this advice quoted here, your wife is a german citizen before moving to germany after getting your residence card here in uk, apply for a residence permit with the german embassy in uk as the family of a german exercising treaty right in uk and who is going back to own country after exercising treaty right in another eu state. Then you will get your answers.

[86ti]

before moving to germany after getting your residence card here in uk, apply for a residence permit with the german embassy in uk as the family of a german exercising treaty right in uk and who is going back to own country after exercising treaty right in another eu state.

If the OP decide to use the EEA route they would eventually need to apply for a German 'Aufenthaltskarte' (residence card). The UK residence card should be good enough to enter Germany although I do not know if the local 'Ausländerbehörde' would insist on an entrance visa. The application for a residence permit does not make any sense to me.

I would advice the OP or his wife to as this question on a German immigration forum.

[rachellynn1972]

A Residence Card or Residence permit, whatever, but the best thing is to go to the German embassy as your spouse is a German national to inquire what is best for you, as I know you are qualify for a residence card in Germany because your wife have move and exercise treaty right in another eu state, but the IO at the port might not know the rules but better you do your home work from here when ever you get your uk residence card. I believe you should be giving a permit to enter Germany as you are not currently holding a Germany residence card and your wife is a German national to easy the situation and when you get to Germany you can then apply for a residence card, I will not advice you to go through many trouble when you get to meet the IO at the Germany airport. If the German embassy says you don’t need any permit, then tell them to give you in writing so you can present this to the IO if questioned.

[berber]

Thank you everyone for you answers.

i am still not sure which root i will take but i didn't know that i am going to another hill after all what i had and i am having with UK Immigration .

how about the UK residency card i will get here (if still waiting) am i going to lose it?? I've heard if you i leave UK more then 3 month you can lose you status here!!!

do i still can apply for permanent residency or citizenship in the uk after 5 years even i live in Germany??

thanks agin for all your answers i will still have to ask for german immigration all that but the good thing by you giving all this diferent answer will make my question to german immigration clear.


all your sudgestion are welcome

good luck for those who waiting as i do

[86ti]

how about the UK residency card i will get here (if still waiting) am i going to lose it?? I've heard if you i leave UK more then 3 month you can lose you status here!!!

Yes, unless the absence is temporary and only of up to 6 months (or longer in certain circumstances).

do i still can apply for permanent residency or citizenship in the uk after 5 years even i live in Germany??

No, because there is a residency requirement for both.

[Punjab]

i saw some days ago and read also that if you are married for 3 years in any EU country with an EU partner than you can apply for settlement in the UK and it cost a lot of £££.

I am not sure if its still the same rule or not?

[86ti]

Please, provide proper links to your claims and do not spread unfounded rumours you may have gathered 'somewhere'. That's not going to help the OP.

[Punjab]

Please, provide proper links to your claims and do not spread unfounded rumours you may have gathered 'somewhere'. That's not going to help the OP.

if i will provide the ***tube link with the lawer who was saying it then someone will tell me that its a propaganda. But I heard and read the same. it was a video from 2006 or 2007. I don't know what happen now for settlement like i did mention before.

[86ti]

And how would we know that a particular person claiming to be a lawyer on a public video platform where anyone and their dog can put a video is trustworthy in any way? In fact, that is not evidence. It is useless. Eventually it is the law that matters. That's what I meant with proper linking.

[Punjab]

And how would we know that a particular person claiming to be a lawyer on a public video platform where anyone and their dog can put a video is trustworthy in any way?

How can a dog put a video???
anyways seriosuly dude like I said it was a old video with full phone numbers on it. He was wearing black coat with a white tie lets call it a suite.
I don't believe on the things which are shown on these videos and I think other people too.

[86ti]

If you do not believe in it why did you fell like posting it here? How does some 'information' plucked from some random place help anyone here? Chit-chatty much?

[Punjab]

If you do not believe in it why did you fell like posting it here? How does some 'information' plucked from some random place help anyone here? Chit-chatty much?

Dude this is a forum where people write things. its totally up to others to do a research. I didn't write anything which came to my dream or I made it up. I did see this on that website so I just shared what I saw.

There was no question of beliving or not beliving thats why I wrote I DON'T know what happen these days which indicates other people to do research on the matter.

[Ken G]

Guru, Both spouses have the right to remain for the first three months in the host country.
The non-EEA spouse acquires a right of residence (and hence work) when the EEA national commences exercising treaty rights.

The authority of the host country is supposed to issue a residence card within six months. I don't know how long it takes in Germany. They also have to issue a COA, certificate of application "immediately". This proves the spouse's status in the interim. The HO sends COAs and they can take a few weeks to a couple of months. Dealings in Germany would usually be conducted with the local immigration authority so although I don't know their procedures, it would probably be issued on the spot or could be picked up a few days later once they've checked that the application includes all relevant documents. (That's how it is in Austria.)

All EEA countries except the UK and Ireland have a population registry. If you intend to live in Germany, you both have to add yourselves to it, within a period of time that may be much less than the three months for applying for a residence card.

[86ti]

@Punjab
No, this forum is not a blog where people just dump off their random thoughts. People come here in the hope to receive solid advice. You may believe that you do not have to back-up your claims but that will certainly just underline the 'quality' of your input. The trouble is that some might be inclined to believe you and are thus lead into a totally useless (and maybe even dangerous) direction.

[86ti]

@Ken G
I am not sure what you are trying to tell me. I am certainly aware of EEA regulations and how they are supposed to work in the member states. The situation in Austria may be similar to Germany but that doesn't help us here (I also very much doubt that the MA35 in Vienna would only need a few days to assess a residence card application. Maybe in the smaller BHs).

What I was referring to was Case C-291/05 'Minister voor Vreemdelingenzaken en Integratie v R.N.G. Eind' which states that a returning citizen does not need to be in employment to make use of the EEA route.

[Punjab]

@Punjab
No, this forum is not a blog where people just dump off their random thoughts. People come here in the hope to receive solid advice. You may believe that you do not have to back-up your claims but that will certainly just underline the 'quality' of your input. The trouble is that some might be inclined to believe you and are thus lead into a totally useless (and maybe even dangerous) direction.

To be honest no one will just belive closing the eyes. this is a form where people can write things what they have read and saw or are seeing.
Like i asked for advice and everyone adviced me but i did my own research also.
at the end of the day i won't be saying the things which i have never seen before.

now i give you another example. some one in the same form mentioned you need to have visa for Germany. but someone did a research and they found other information.

ok i can't explain you what I mean but at the end of the day its the responsibility of the person who asked the question to do further research.

[alekos]

And how would we know that a particular person claiming to be a lawyer on a public video platform where anyone and their dog can put a video is trustworthy in any way? In fact, that is not evidence. It is useless. Eventually it is the law that matters. That's what I meant with proper linking.

I agree with the Gurus. Let me add, standard replies should as much as possible refer to points of law and with links to the information. If OP wanted an "everyday occurrence, chit chat, I heard of it somewhere.." advice OP would ask for it.

[86ti]

this is a form where people can write things what they have read and saw or are seeing.

You keep repeating yourself and I have already answered to this. It is not a question what you have seen or what you believe you have seen. That's mostly meaningless as nobody will be able to verify that. What is eventually needed is authoritative answers and not some unfounded things somebody may have heard or seen. Your answer did not provide any additional value.

Like i asked for advice and everyone adviced me but i did my own research also.

Good to see that we do not have to answer the very same question you have been asking over and over again.

some one in the same form mentioned you need to have visa for Germany. but someone did a research and they found other information.

Yes, it was quickly pointed out that that was wrong. But that doesn't mean that you have to repeat the same mistake, now does it?

but at the end of the day its the responsibility of the person who asked the question to do further research.

Yes, but that does not mean that those who answer here are aquitted of any responsibility.

[Punjab]

ok i say again

i didn't write what i made up. i wrote what i saw. i mentioned at the end what happens these days .. means the guy who need ans or other people will search for it.

at the end of the day if you will say that you can walk on water, and the person try it without thinking then its his fault.