Grand Parents alive but no way of getting passport photocopy

[lightmagician]

Hi guys.

Does anyone know if there is a way around this complication.

My grandmother is an irish citizen who lives in the UK.

Obviously I want to apply to the Foriegn Births Register but there is no way of getting my grandmothers passport photocopy as my mum had to cut all contact with them and I know wouldnt help me becuase of this.

Also does my mum have to register on the FBR before I can?

Thanks

M

[walrusgumble]

Hi guys.

Does anyone know if there is a way around this complication.

My grandmother is an irish citizen who lives in the UK.

Obviously I want to apply to the Foriegn Births Register but there is no way of getting my grandmothers passport photocopy as my mum had to cut all contact with them and I know wouldnt help me becuase of this.

Also does my mum have to register on the FBR before I can?

Thanks

M

What makes you think that your grand mother herself will consent to you using these facts in such away?

How about tracking your grandmother down and develop a relationship, explain to her your problem and see what happens.

How did your grandmother become an Irish Citizen?


Was your grandmother born in Ireland, if so, your own mother would be an Irish Citizen. (Won't get into the nitty gritty of this)

Did she naturalise, if so, are you sure that you have any rights? When were you born?


You will definitely need the grandmother's birth cert, and your mother's birth cert

[lightmagician]

Hi

Thanks for the reply.

My mum grew up in an abused family so whilst I know how to get in touch with my grandparents, frankly I am not prepared to go there.

My grandmother was born in Nothern Ireland to Irish parents.
My grandfather is english.

My grandmother married in the Uk.

My mum has never been entered on to the FBR.

I was born in the UK in 84

So my intention has been to claim via descent from my grandparents assuming I can order copies of my grandmothers birth certificate and marriage certificate.

The problem is that I can't provide a copy of any other offical id belonging to my grandmother.

Any input?

Cheers.

[agniukas]

sorry for asking, but if you already have UK citizenship, why would you need the irish?

[lightmagician]

[quote="agniukas"]sorry for asking, but if you already have UK citizenship, why would you need the irish?[/quote]

Thats ok, frankly I would just like to.

[walrusgumble]

Hi

Thanks for the reply.

My mum grew up in an abused family so whilst I know how to get in touch with my grandparents, frankly I am not prepared to go there.

My grandmother was born in Nothern Ireland to Irish parents.
My grandfather is english.

My grandmother married in the Uk.

My mum has never been entered on to the FBR.

I was born in the UK in 84

So my intention has been to claim via descent from my grandparents assuming I can order copies of my grandmothers birth certificate and marriage certificate.

The problem is that I can't provide a copy of any other offical id belonging to my grandmother.

Any input?

Cheers.

I need to re check, but people people born in Northern Ireland prior to GFA were not Irish Citizens (surprise). She could now under GFA. To be clear, did she hold an Irish Passport when you were born. If not, you have no case as its all about status at time of birth. Where were grandmother's parents from in what now became southern Ireland?


Why are you claiming Irish Citizenship?

Your British regardless of what a piece of paper says, so what immigration problems do you have?


So talk to your grandmother! You can't have your toast buttered on both sides.

[Ben]

Anyone born on the island of Ireland prior to 01/01/2005 is entitled to be an Irish citizen unconditionally.

The OP, as the grandchild of such as a person, is entitled to be entered on the FBR to become an Irish citizen.

Proof of the grandmother's birth in Northern Ireland is required. You may be able to get a replacement here:
http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/gro

[walrusgumble]

Anyone born on the island of Ireland prior to 01/01/2005 is entitled to be an Irish citizen unconditionally.

The OP, as the grandchild of such as a person, is entitled to be entered on the FBR to become an Irish citizen.

Proof of the grandmother's birth in Northern Ireland is required. You may be able to get a replacement here:
http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/gro

That is not answering the question. There was legislative limits of the effect of Irish Nationality & Citizenship Act 1956,ie as in automatic rights, long before the 2004 amendment. GFA confirmed the law in 1998. Have you checked that out?