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Post by djsilicon » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:54 pm

(Edited by Moderator)...anyone know if this firm is a scam? sounds too good to be true (or legal). They advertise on google sponsored links sometimes. Never heard anything about them on these boards or elsewhere, though.

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Post by Dawie » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:00 am

This is the most dodgiest thing I have ever seen.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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Post by Christophe » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:35 am

I don't know, but a statement on the home page near the top, under the heading "Immigration to the UK" caught my eye: "United Kingdom immigration law is very complex and it is essential that you seek legal advice from the experienced immigration lawyers."

While it is undoubtedly true that UK immigration law is complex (although not necessarily more complex than many other countries - it is UK nationality law that is particularly notable as being complex), most people are able to negotiate the hurdles successfully without legal advice from experienced immigration lawyers - and that despite the sometimes Byzantine workings of the Home Office. So I take that as a red flag to begin with.

I'm also dubious about their "offers" of easy access to passports of various EU countries.

I'd be inclined to take it all with a very large pinch of salt - in other words, tread very warily indeed.

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Post by Dawie » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:05 pm

I'll tell you what's convinced me that it's dodgy...one of the countries that they offer to get you an "easy passport" for is Slovenia. Slovenia is currently on the US Visa Waiver program. You can bet your life that if it really was so easy to get a Slovenian passport by simply paying some company a load of money that the US would have no hesitation in striking Slovenia off this program. One of the key things that the US looks at when deciding if a country can participate in this program is how secure their passport and citizenship procedures are.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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Post by RobinLondon » Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:26 pm

I agree. The Slovenian route is a very difficult one to go. However...

The Slovenes are quite generous in that they have expedited naturalisation procedures for three generations after the original Slovene ancestor. Given that country's sizeable diaspora, it's possible that an applicant may go that route. However, a 100% Indian or Vietnamese stands absolutely no chance. I mean look how tight they were with dealing out citizenship to resident Serbs/Croats/etc. after Yugoslavia came apart!

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Post by Dawie » Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:48 pm

Hehe, I wouldn't mind getting a Nicaraguan passport though. Surprisingly all of the Central American countries do not require Schengen visas. I've always found this surprising as my native country, South Africa, is much richer than all of those countries combined and yet we require Schengen visas.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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Post by jes2jes » Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:24 pm

Guys & Gals:
Thought I will post this from a query I made in disguise from the above website. Read for yourself :roll:

...........................................................................................................

Dear Sir,

Thank you for visiting our website (edited by Moderator) and expressing your interest in the immigration and second passport programs we offer.

As a result of our extensive expertise in the field of immigration and citizenship law as well as our vast experience in helping hundreds of clients achieve their immigration and second passport goals we are now able to offer such programs worldwide, including several EU member states.

These passport programs offer such major advantages as quick processing time, optional worldwide delivery as well as attractive pricing.

A quick overview of our programs:

Estonia second passport:
from $7,000 per applicant.
Processing time: 6-8 weeks.

Slovenia second passport:
from $11,000 per applicant.
Processing time: 5-7 weeks.

Guyana second passport:
$19,000 per applicant.
Processing time: around 8 weeks.

Nicaragua second passport:
$13,000 per applicant.
Processing time: 6-8 weeks.

Spanish immigration and passport using Nicaragua second passport:
$15,000 per applicant.
Processing time: 6-8 weeks for Nicaragua second passport and two-three weeks for arranging formal 6 months legal residence requirement waiver.

UK immigration and legalization of stay using Estonia or Slovenia second passport:
Fees and processing time correspond to those of respective second passport programs.

Austria citizenship and passport through economic investment program*:
Direct investment of Euro 1,000,000. Time frame: varies.

*Offered to A-list clients only through our parent company, (edited by Moderator)

Eligibility of each particular applicant for a specific program is not guaranteed and is determined on an individual basis using the applicant's application forms and supplied documents. An exact price and time frame for issuance may also differ in each case depending on the applicant's specific details.

Let us know what program you are interested in applying for. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.

Sincerely,
Peter Skousen
Head of Legal Advisor Department

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Praise The Lord!!!!

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Post by Dawie » Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:29 pm

You have to ask yourself if it's so easy why isn't everyone doing it? Also, have you noticed that nowhere on the website is there a telephone number?

I fear that were you to be naive enough to fall for this you would end up losing a lot of $$$$.
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Post by John » Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:39 pm

Sorry I did not spot this earlier. The blatant advertising has been removed. This whole topic will be moved to someone most cannot see it ... later today. In the meantime I shall lock it.
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