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Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:28 am

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Post by **Casa** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:39 pm

You write that your wife stays with you in your flat 'whenever she is in London'. How often is that and do you have any joint bills or correspondence address to you both at a joint address? You have difficulty in proving the relationship is subsisting if you are living in different parts of the country. One requirement of FLR(M) is that you show evidence that you are living together or intend to live together.

Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:59 pm

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Post by **Casa** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:30 pm

A student loan isn't listed under Public Funds.
In my opinion you're going to find it difficult to prove the relationship with your wife living in another part of the country and the lack of joint documents. You'll need to submit strong evidence that your marriage wasn't one of convenience to enable you to remain here once your student visa expires. How long do have remaining on your current visa? Are you subject to the new A1 English test? If so, you'll need to pass this before applying for FLR(M). Are you still studying and have you only worked within your permitted hours?

Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:01 pm

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Post by **Greenie** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:38 am

I agree with Casa and think your application is highly likely to be refused as you have provided no evidence of cohabitation and in fact the evidence you are providing (your bank statements showing one address, and your wife's showing another) prove exactly the opposite.

Saying you have only provided a 'few wedding photographs' because the others 'are on USB or on our phones' will not stand up either. Why can't you print out those photographs? why aren't you providing other photographs of you and your wife together other than your wedding day? The phone records issue makes it even worse. If your application was granted I would be extremely surprised.

You haven't answered Casa's question as to how many nights your wife stays with you? How often do you stay with her?

Post by **Casa** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:07 am

To add to Greenie's comment "You haven't answered Casa's question as to how many nights your wife stays with you? How often do you stay with her?".......
what evidence will you able to submit of the time you spend together? Travel tickets, for example.

Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:36 pm

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Post by **Casa** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:55 pm

I didn't mention phone records...but Greenie did and I take her comment to mean that the fact that your wife's phone is registered to someone else, weakens the evidence of contact between you. You also say she has only a few coach tickets. How do you intend to prove that you have spent time together as a married couple? When applying for FLR(M) you are required to show that you will be living together...not simply 'visiting'. A tenancy in joint names with your wife's name recently added won't be sufficient. You'll also have to submit documents addressed to you both at the same address. Do you have anything at all in joint names? The case worker may well take the view that the relatively short commuting distance between Kent and London doesn't require the rental of two separate homes.
As far as finances are concerned it appears as if you'll need to rely on 3rd party financial support. Is the relative who is providing funds at present, resident in the UK?

Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:22 pm

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Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:45 am

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Post by **Casa** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:57 pm

The fact that you're not actually living together is the main issue. I suggest you seek legal advice before you proceed further.
Bear in mind that we all leave an 'electronic footprint', which means that without a doubt checks will show that your wife is also registered at another address.

Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:56 pm

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Post by **Casa** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:14 pm

As a couple you need to show that you have a minimum of £105.95 remaining weekly after paying rent, council tax (if applicable) and any credit/loan repayments. This is complicated however by the fact that you're renting two separate properties.
A financial sponsor would need to be resident in the UK and able to submit bank or financial statements to show they will be willing and able to support you financially during the period of your 2 year spouse visa.

Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:24 pm

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Post by **Casa** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:56 pm

As I posted previously:
Bear in mind that we all leave an 'electronic footprint', which means that without a doubt checks will show that your wife is also registered at another address.

Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:14 pm

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Post by **Casa** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:52 am

Her parents address is 'another address'...which I assume is where she is registered with HMRC. Does she have a driving licence? Is she registered with a doctor's surgery? If you want to prove that your wife is living with you, then yes, she will need to be added to utility bills, tenancy etc.
You mentioned earlier that your wife is working part-time. Does this include weekend work and where is her work place? Kent or London?

Post by **Greenie** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:24 am

Azbiyi wrote:Thank you for your reply....She's only registered to her parent house and not any other address. I just want to confirm if my suggestion is ok with changing the address and others to mine

If she is renting a flat how is she not registered at that address? Doesn't she have bills to pay there? Hasn't she completed a council tax exemption form?

Post by **Casa** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:10 am

Adding to what Greenie has asked in her last post...I see from an earlier post that your wife is working in the town where she is studying and living during the week. This involves weekend work?
Also "She's on housing waiting list aswell." What housing list?

Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:06 pm

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Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:18 pm

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Post by **Greenie** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:27 pm

I struggle to see how a student would be successful in getting a 1 bedroom council flat/house unless she has particular needs. Regardless of this, the fact that she is applying for council housing may cause further problems for your application. Has she applied as a single person or as a married person?

If she doesn't actually have a tenancy in Kent and is living in overcrowded circumstances, to the extent that she has applied for council housing, why doesn't she just live with you, her husband, and commute? Or why don't the two of you move slightly closer to Kent and both commute to college/uni?

Azbiyi · Post by **Azbiyi** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:36 pm

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Post by **Greenie** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:22 pm

Azbiyi wrote:I understand you greenie.... she was already on the list before we even got married anyway, The housing is done long time ago and i can't move from where i live because my place is still closer to my school. I'm being positive that this application can be successful because i just need few ideas and i can see the weakness the more i go deeper. I will delay my application by few months maybe i will send it off by middle of march to gather more evidence.

She does live with me but i will change some of my ultitlies bill and tenancy to mine and get a letter from my lanlord to confirm we do live together.

Sleeping over at the weekend is not the same as living together.

Sorry - I just don't get why, if you are married the two of you would not find somewhere together that is easy for both of you to commute to college. Kent and London are hardly very far apart. If she applied when she was single then she needs to tell them that she is now married - and also that you are not entitled to public funds. I strongly suggest you seek legal advice on your application.

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