parent visit uk and just reach 65 year old

Andy83 · Post by **Andy83** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:43 pm

does anybody know it's possible to apply settlement visa for them ,one of them just reach 65 year old during the visit uk for a short time of 6 months,many thanks

Post by **Casa** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:39 am

Not from within the UK while on a Visitor visa.

Andy83 · Post by **Andy83** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:49 am

anyone else knows how much monthly income I need to show ukba ?how much for their life basical cost??is any standard rate?for example,300 pounds each one.

Post by **Casa** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:20 am

What is the monthly income for? A visitor visa?

Andy83 · Post by **Andy83** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:30 am

Casa wrote:What is the monthly income for? A visitor visa?

apply ilr for them

Post by **Casa** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:18 am

They don't qualify for ILR. They will need to apply for a Dependent visa first...from outside the UK. Here's the UKBA link -
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... dependent/

The current fee for a Dependent entry settlement visa is £1,814 per applicant.

Andy83 · Post by **Andy83** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:58 am

Casa wrote:They don't qualify for ILR. They will need to apply for a Dependent visa first...from outside the UK. Here's the UKBA link -
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... dependent/

The current fee for a Dependent entry settlement visa is £1,814 per applicant.

Thanks casa

but "parents or grandparents who are travelling together, if one of them is aged 65 or over."
you can apply settlement visa for them

Cannot understand so much

Post by **Casa** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:10 pm

Sorry...yes if they are granted entry outside of the UK, the settlement visa would be Indefinate. Regarding the level of funds, the minimum at present is £105.95 for a couple weekly. Wait for confirmation from others as to whether this calculation is used for dependent parents.
Are they mainly or wholly dependent on you at present and have no other family they can depend on in their home country?

Post by **Obie** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:09 am

interestinly para 317-319 of the immigration rules does not demand an entry clearance for Leave to Remain to be granted to these categories of dependant relatives, but i agree the UKBA will make life tough for them if they dont hold a valid entry clearance in this category, by trying to invoke 322(7) if they had entered with a visitors visa and immediately on arrival seek to apply for ILR, except if they can provide justification for sudden change in circumstance.

Post by **Greenie** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:02 pm

Casa wrote:Sorry...yes if they are granted entry outside of the UK, the settlement visa would be Indefinate. Regarding the level of funds, the minimum at present is £105.95 for a couple weekly. Wait for confirmation from others as to whether this calculation is used for dependent parents.
Are they mainly or wholly dependent on you at present and have no other family they can depend on in their home country?

if the couple are at pensionable age then the higher pension credits rate would need to be used.

Obviously the OP would also need to show s/he also had sufficient funds for the rest of his/her household.

Post by **Greenie** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:08 pm

Obie wrote:interestinly para 317-319 of the immigration rules does not demand an entry clearance for Leave to Remain to be granted to these categories of dependant relatives, but i agree the UKBA will make life tough for them if they dont hold a valid entry clearance in this category, by trying to invoke 322(7) if they had entered with a visitors visa and immediately on arrival seek to apply for ILR, except if they can provide justification for sudden change in circumstance.

vinny wrote: If they are visiting the UK, then there should also be a change of circumstances if they want to apply for ILR. Else, they may be refused under 322(7) because of 41(i) & (ii).

Post by **Obie** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:35 pm

In all the circumstances and in agreement with the previous contrubutors, i will advice that the OP's parent apply for entry cleaeance from iverseas, for a variety of reasons. However i find it hard to see the level of soundness of a refusal under 322(7) if some one meets all the substantive requirement of 317-319.

Take for example a 63 years old student, who is expected to live UK on completion of their course. If that parent then makes an application under par 319 for live to remain, can you imagine her application being refused on the basis of 322(7), i very much doubt so.

Post by **Greenie** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:38 pm

There is no longer any requirement for a student to show an intention leave the UK upon completion of their course.

Coming to the UK as a visitor means just that, the person has entered the UK as a visitor and has declared in their applications they intend to return at the end of their visit, unless their circumstances have suddenly changed (and by changed, not that they have now reached the age of 65) they have every chance of being refused under 322(7)

Post by **Obie** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:50 pm

Paragraph 82(ii) does state a student should have an intention of leaving UK on completion of their studies.

I believe as previously stated that an Entry clearance in this category should be applied for, and in my initial post i did not dispute the existence of 322(7), however when all factors are considered it may not carry the weight it is intended to carry.

Post by **Greenie** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:41 pm

Obie wrote:Paragraph 82(ii) does state a student should have an intention of leaving UK on completion of their studies.

I believe as previously stated that an Entry clearance in this category should be applied for, and in my initial post i did not dispute the existence of 322(7), however when all factors are considered it may not carry the weight it is intended to carry.

Para 82(ii) relates to prospective students. The rules relating to tier 4 students have no requirement for the applicant to intend to leave the UK upon completion of their studies.

Andy83 · Post by **Andy83** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:28 pm

Greenie wrote:
Obie wrote:Paragraph 82(ii) does state a student should have an intention of leaving UK on completion of their studies.

I believe as previously stated that an Entry clearance in this category should be applied for, and in my initial post i did not dispute the existence of 322(7), however when all factors are considered it may not carry the weight it is intended to carry.
Para 82(ii) relates to prospective students. The rules relating to tier 4 students have no requirement for the applicant to intend to leave the UK upon completion of their studies.

Thanks for all the pals above ,that's very kind

Post by **geriatrix** » Sun May 27, 2012 10:02 am

Andy83 wrote:Does anybody know how long we need to wait for parent settlement visa from post in the Uk?

Post by **geriatrix** » Sun May 27, 2012 10:04 am

What do you mean when you say "from post in the UK"?

Andy83 · Post by **Andy83** » Mon May 28, 2012 2:11 am

what I mean Is apply in the UK,

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parent visit uk and just reach 65 year old

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