EEA Family Permit will i get it ?

[Stay_Sharp]

Hi today i applied for EEA Family Permit in VSF Global Bangalore, India.Below are the list of Documents which i submitted along with my EEA FP application

1. Marriage Certificate from India
2. Marriage Certificate from Poland In Polish
3. Marriage Certificate from Poland in English
4. Letter from EEA National
5. EEA National’s passport Copy
6. Tenancy Agreement
7. No Objection Letter from land owner
8. License to occupy Document
9. EEA national’s Pay slip
10. EEA national’s Work Contract agreement
11. EEA national’s 6 month bank statement
12. Worker Registration Scheme Card
13. Bank Account Certificate
14. Bank Account Statement
15. National Insurance number document
16. Call and SMS History
17. Copy of Email, Gtalk and Skype Chat History
18. Photographs (120)
19. Joint Bank Account Agreement (In Polish)
20. English Translation of Joint Bank Account
21. Rental Agreement from Poland (In Polish)
22. English Translation of Polish Rental Agreement
23. Two Letters ( Address same as Rental agreement from Poland )
24. P60 End of year certificate
25. Travel Tickets
a. Flight Boarding Passes
b. Ticket from Wroclaw to Prague
c. Prague local tram ticket

26. Marriage Affidavit (from my parents)
a. Supporting letter from my Parents
27. Education Certificates
28. Two Temporary Resident Card ( Karta Pobytu)
29. WUT student ID card
30. WUT Grade book (INDEX)
31. Other supporting documents
a. DHL Shipment waybill
b. Invoice from Elephant Camp
c. 2 Entry pass for Daily Kathakali Show( Kerala)
d. 2 Entry Pass for Kalaripayattu Martial show (Kerala)
e. 2 Entry pass for Mysore Palace (Karnataka)

what are my chances to get EEA Family Permit, as u all know waiting for visa is very stressing, any reply will be appreciated . Thanks in advance

[Jambo]

No one can predict the outcome of an application based only on a list of documents (of which some of them seem to be not required/relevant).

If you provide some background (how long are you married, any bad
immigration history with the UK, what is your spouse doing in the UK), it will still be difficult to impossible to predict how your application will be reviewed.

You will need to wait and see. EEA FP should be treated with high priority so hopefully you will find out soon.

[fysicus]

...documents (of which some of them seem to be not required/relevant).

You are very polite, Jambo! My first impression is that the vast majority of this list of documents is redundant. And Stay_Sharp is very lucky that I am not an ECO at a British embassy, because my natural reaction would be to put this huge pile of documents aside and look for something else to do first.

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

I actually think that submitting more than just a cover letter, two passports and a marriage certificate actually increases the probability of the application being rejected. I would never submit all that extra stuff, no more than I would send a copy of my diary and my love letters to the tax man along with my tax return.

[fysicus]

c. 2 Entry pass for Daily Kathakali Show( Kerala)
d. 2 Entry Pass for Kalaripayattu Martial show (Kerala)
e. 2 Entry pass for Mysore Palace (Karnataka)

Have these entry passes been used already (by yourself) or are they for the benefit of the ECO? With a Corruption Perceptions Index of 3.1 for India (Transparency International 2011) the latter might be a realistic option...

@John: you say exactly what I was thinking

[scorpio1]

If I will be an ECO then i will put this application for extra 'check', big file doesn't give any gurantee to get a visa,
good luck, hope your strategy will work.

[Kitty]

I actually think that submitting more than just a cover letter, two passports and a marriage certificate actually increases the probability of the application being rejected. I would never submit all that extra stuff, no more than I would send a copy of my diary and my love letters to the tax man along with my tax return.

I agree that the OP has included a vast bulk of unnecessary material in this case.

However, it is worth bearing in mind that the genuineness of marriages between Eastern European EEA nationals and partners from the subcontinent does in practice attract additional scrutiny, and it may be worth addressing this with some care in an application rather than waiting until an appeal becomes necessary.

[Stay_Sharp]

Thank you for your reply,
Yes, I understand some of the documents are not required for EEAFP but we are genuine couple and to prove that I thought its necessary to provide each and every peace of paper related to us and our relationship .

scorpio1 wrote:
If I will be an ECO then i will put this application for extra 'check', big file doesn't give any gurantee to get a visa,
good luck, hope your strategy will work.

i'm not having any strategy here, my wife wrote letter to ECO about our relationship and how it started etc... to prove it we submitted sufficient evidence hoping it will help ECO.

fysicus wrote:
Have these entry passes been used already (by yourself) or are they for the benefit of the ECO?

yes they are used by us and i provided Pictures from Kerala where we spent our Honeymoon. This proves that they used by us.

Jambo wrote:
If you provide some background (how long are you married, any bad
immigration history with the UK, what is your spouse doing in the UK),

we got married in April 2011 but we are in relation from past 2 years from 2010. i met my wife in Poland when i was studying in Wroclaw University of Technology ( that's why i included my University ID card and Grade book).

any bad immigration history with the UK ?
no i don't have any immigration history with UK. i went to study in Poland and i left Poland with clean background.

ECO can make cross check or extra check i'm sure i'll come out clean bcoz we are genuine couple and we love each other very much. It doesn't matter whether ECO will give me permit or not but he cant stop us from loving each other.

[Directive/2004/38/EC]

I actually think that submitting more than just a cover letter, two passports and a marriage certificate actually increases the probability of the application being rejected. I would never submit all that extra stuff, no more than I would send a copy of my diary and my love letters to the tax man along with my tax return.

I agree that the OP has included a vast bulk of unnecessary material in this case.

However, it is worth bearing in mind that the genuineness of marriages between Eastern European EEA nationals and partners from the subcontinent does in practice attract additional scrutiny, and it may be worth addressing this with some care in an application rather than waiting until an appeal becomes necessary.

Kitty,

It seems the problem is that sometimes applicants are including a lot of excess information (like in this case). The ECO looks over it, finds something which raises questions for them (e.g. the couple was living apart for a period of time), and because of that rejects the application.

MRAX is structured to allow entry (without the "required" visa) on the basis of solely the two passports and offical documentary evidence (in this case marriage certificate) of the relationship. There is not much room for an extended evaluation of the nature of the marriage before entry.

I suspect there is other ECJ case law that prevents requesting more than the marriage certificiate in most cases.

[Kitty]

The OP is wanting to travel from India. He's unlikely to be able to get on a plane without the Family Permit. If he had access to the Channel ports or Eurostar then things might be different.

In addition, UKBA staff do view Eastern European/Indian matches with more suspicion than other relationships. This is not because applicants submit too much evidence on a regular basis. It's a combination of experience of the parties often involved in sham marriages, and stereotypical (sometimes dearly beloved) assumptions about the nationalities involved.

In practical terms, I would understand an applicant wanting to address this problem in advance, rather than going to court.[/i]

[Stay_Sharp]

Hi guys finally got my passport with EEA FP stamp in it , Thank you very much for all the support and help you guys gave me