British Citizenship/ Driving without insurance

need to Know · Post by **need to Know** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:20 pm

Hi All

I wonder if anyone can help me with this. I meet all requirments for Naturlisation however I have a driving conviction of driving without insurance.
This is through no fault of my own. I was employed and the company I was working for gave me a car to use for work related duties during the day. I was pulled over by the police and was informed I was not insured to drive this car. I recieved a fine which the company paid and 6 points on my licence. I did never think it would impact on this at the time.

When I found out a few weeks ago I contacted my former employers and they gave me a letter stating that I was not aware of the car not been insured and that they were responsible. Not sure if this will make any differnce and am nervous nto take a risk and loose the monies i need to to pay.

Please advise asap

need to Know · Post by **need to Know** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:25 pm

this is for uk

Smallfamily · Post by **Smallfamily** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:35 pm

Well HO can say that if it wasn't ur fault (even if you attach a covering letter) then why you had to get 6 points on ur licence? If it was ur company's mistake then they should have faced those points not you!

I know you were driving but it was company's car not urs so technically ur comapny was responsible for the insurance as well as for the points so u should have apealled against the points.

So my thinking is you have a 50-50 chance but let see what others say on this...

Note: Driving without insurance does come under major offence

need to Know · Post by **need to Know** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:40 pm

I hear what you say but I had no idea that it would have this impact and secondly my wife was expecting our first baby at the time so I was more focused on trying to find other empoyment which was stable and without such incidents which I have found and i have been there for the last 2 years.

Post by **Greenie** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:42 pm

Smallfamily wrote:Well HO can say that if it wasn't ur fault (even if you attach a covering letter) then why you had to get 6 points on ur licence? If it was ur company's mistake then they should have faced those points not you!

I know you were driving but it was company's car not urs so technically ur comapny was responsible for the insurance as well as for the points so u should have apealled against the points.

So my thinking is you have a 50-50 chance but let see what others say on this...

Note: Driving without insurance does come under major offence

Driving without insurance is a strict liability offence. It is no defence to say that you were not aware that you did not have insurance.

need to Know · Post by **need to Know** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:52 pm

Would it help that I have the letter from them admitting guilt and Iwas not aware?

I have learnt this all now.

Smallfamily · Post by **Smallfamily** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:55 pm

Greenie wrote: Driving without insurance is a strict liability offence. It is no defence to say that you were not aware that you did not have insurance.

Agree with Greenie...very risky i'm afraid

Smallfamily · Post by **Smallfamily** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:59 pm

need to Know wrote:Would it help that I have the letter from them admitting guilt and Iwas not aware?

I have learnt this all now.

Well I think you really can't prove urself innocent through a letter because to be honest it can't prove ur situation...

need to Know · Post by **need to Know** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:00 pm

Smallfamily wrote:
Greenie wrote: Driving without insurance is a strict liability offence. It is no defence to say that you were not aware that you did not have insurance.
Agree with Greenie...very risky i'm afraid

Can I have the points revocked? Is this a possibility?

Post by **Greenie** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:01 pm

Strict liability means that it doesn't matter if you were aware of it or not, if you were driving without insurance, you are guilty of the offence.

need to Know · Post by **need to Know** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:06 pm

Greenie wrote:Strict liability means that it doesn't matter if you were aware of it or not, if you were driving without insurance, you are guilty of the offence.

I think it probably best to leave the application till the conviction has been spent.

Thanks

Smallfamily · Post by **Smallfamily** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:06 pm

need to Know wrote: Can I have the points revocked? Is this a possibility?

I'm afraid there is no way in my knowledge through which u can revoke ur points...
even if u contact DVLA they will ask u why u didn't told us at the time of receiving points or why you didn't went into appeal.

So its too late now for any action

Smallfamily · Post by **Smallfamily** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:07 pm

need to Know wrote:
Greenie wrote:Strict liability means that it doesn't matter if you were aware of it or not, if you were driving without insurance, you are guilty of the offence.
I think it probably best to leave the application till the conviction has been spent.

Thanks

I agree wait until the conviction is spent...

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British Citizenship/ Driving without insurance

British Citizenship/ Driving without insurance