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In the original written ministerial statement announcing the settlement reform, they mentioned only those who entered economic migration routes under the Immigration Rules in force from 6 April this year [2011] and who, under the current system, could have expected to apply for settlement in 2016.onceblue wrote:I think we can not answer this question as no official document has been announced by UKBA, regarding the speak of Secretary.raykau wrote:Will these affect people who are under old WorkPermit from 2008 or only who will be coming into the new PBS from 2011/2012? Can somebody advice please?
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They also made me sign a declaration to make UK my main home when i originally applied for HSMP in Dec 2006. At that time, they always promoted their grant of settlement to HSMP holders more than 100 times in that application. Now why are they changing rules and making difficult to secure ILR?settled_now wrote:Why are they always changing the rule?
They can. And they state just that on their website under settlement!
there has been absolutely no suggestion that any changes to the rules for ILR will apply to someone who is here as a HSMP holder or who originally came here under the HSMP and then switched to tier 1 general. The ministerial statement referred to above is the only reliable source of information until the changes are formally announced, and they have clearly said that the changes will apply to those who entered the relevent routes under the rules in force from 6th April 2011.rdrp wrote:They also made me sign a declaration to make UK my main home when i originally applied for HSMP in Dec 2006. At that time, they always promoted their grant of settlement to HSMP holders more than 100 times in that application. Now why are they changing rules and making difficult to secure ILR?settled_now wrote:Why are they always changing the rule?
They can. And they state just that on their website under settlement!
If not for UKBA to go out of their way to lure me into the UK, i would have happily settled in the US right now.
I agree with you. However, there is a trick for getting into the high pay bracket. Myself is paid quiet well specilized in finance Front office IT. I know several brilliant programmers gettting less than half my salary just becasue they are not seeing what they need to do. Of course, you need to develop certain skills, but worth the effort. Investigate niche areas, specialize in it and you are set. What is the point in saying that you can develop complex algorithms on your own if you are paid low? You can really make lot of money by putting text boxes into UI according to the users requirement if you are at the right place. Believe me!settled_now wrote: On the other hand, where no shortage exists - for example in IT, the minimum 35k doesn't even come close enough. If you are in IT and making less than 50k, you are undercutting the market.
HiGreenie wrote:it is not about causing offence, rather that this has been something that has been conintually discussed since they announced the consultation last year, and the question of who it applies to has already been asked, and answered on numerous occasions.
the information is available in the ministerial statement which has been linked to above, and in the consultation itself. You cannot rely on the sun as an accurate source of information on prospective changes to the immigration rules which have not yet been formally announced by the government. When I said that the question had been asked and answered numerous times, I meant on this forum since the consultation was announced last year.Smam wrote:HiGreenie wrote:it is not about causing offence, rather that this has been something that has been conintually discussed since they announced the consultation last year, and the question of who it applies to has already been asked, and answered on numerous occasions.
Thanks a lot for your kind reply. As you have said that it was already answered on numerous occasions that who will be affected by this rule can you please provide a refference like I did when I started this conversation by providing a reference link from the Sun News paper where I have read this news. I'll be very greatfull to you if you can provide us with some official reference,publications,links or what ever kind of info you have to prove that this issue was answered on numerous occasions.
To best of my knowledge the Govt is claiming to bring down the net migraation to tens of thousands by the end of 2015 that's why I think they are changing the rules so rapidly at a bullet fast speed, so I dont really get people saying that all these new rules announced will be applicable to those who'll be applying in 2016.
Please kindly elaborate and share some more usefull info that would be great.
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dimsav - I hope and pray that you are correct. I will be sad for people who came to the uk after April 6 2011 but those who were already working here surely deserve to have settlement in due course. I very much hope that we have confirmation this week.dimsav wrote:In the original written ministerial statement announcing the settlement reform, they mentioned only those who entered economic migration routes under the Immigration Rules in force from 6 April this year [2011] and who, under the current system, could have expected to apply for settlement in 2016.onceblue wrote:I think we can not answer this question as no official document has been announced by UKBA, regarding the speak of Secretary.raykau wrote:Will these affect people who are under old WorkPermit from 2008 or only who will be coming into the new PBS from 2011/2012? Can somebody advice please?
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To be sure though, one should indeed wait for the formal final statement...
It seems to me that WP holders should be ok with ILR -- the only (new) thing is that they will need to comply with a salary requirement, as the other Tier 2. But the main point is that WP holders keep their right to apply for the settlement after 5 years, provided that they meet all the criteria. Whereas all "new" (after April 2011) Tier 2 will no longer have such an automatic right for settlement. (However, UKBA is going to introduce a new sub-category of Tier 2 with such a settlement option, so that one can switch to that route during the extension...)Smam wrote:I just wanted to bring this thing to light for the WP holders only who are applying for their ILR this year which clearly means that they have got their WP issued back in 2007. I was just going through one of the post "Watch out Old Work permit holders" the rule for SOC came in to being after 31st March 2009 and I have read that the HO has refused an ILR on the basis of that rule.
That's the main source of worry for me that how the new rules will be applicable to old WP holders.
they have closed tier 1 general, introduced a cap on tier 2, introduced minimum salary levels and raised the skill level to graduate level for tier 2, tightened tier 4 and scrapped psw. By breaking the link to settlement for migrants who entered the system after April 2011 i imagine they will envisage that less migrants will come here under tier 2 and others already here who applied after April 2011 may choose to go home earlier. They are also going to make family settlement harder. I now sound like the coalition's public relations officer! The announcement is expected today i am sure things will be clearer then.t0mmy wrote:If we assume the new rules wud only be for post April 2011 new applicants wich is more likely to happen-
then how wud the govt bring down net migration . Elections are due in 2-3 years and rules wud be applied after that? Very fair for us
