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needs assistance in Previous earnings documentation

Post by kmj_005 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:08 am

I am applying for my tier 1 general extension. Could you please help me on the following questions.
1.I had been made redundant in my company . The last month pay includes the salary, holiday pay and bonus, all these pays are taxable pay, I also got the Severance pay(redundancy pay) for extra two months which is taxfree. I know I cannot include the tax free redundant pay in previous earnings, however can I include taxable pays such as the bonus and holiday pay. Also My bank statement shows as X amount(redundant pay + taxable salary). As it is not just taxable salary, Is there any problem here?

2. In the 12 months yearnings, one of the month, the HR forgot about the pay, then the day before the pay date, they transferred emergency payment through another bank. Because of that the company description in the bank statement for that pay shows as some random numbers instead of the company name, however the amounts in the payslip and the bank statement are matched, is that alright.
3. My 2nd employer provide me the payslips in the company headedletterpad, is that alright to show instead of the formal payslips.
4. My both of the employers company names which is in the bank statement and the present name of the companies are different. However, the amounts in the payslips and the bank statements are matched. Will there be a problem here?

Thanks for helping me on these questions.
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Post by kmj_005 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:23 pm

Could any please help me on this issue. Thank you

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Re: needs assistance in Previous earnings documentation

Post by kmj_005 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:17 am

Could anyone please help me on this issue. Thank you

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Re: needs assistance in Previous earnings documentation

Post by rakeysh.patel » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:31 am

kmj_005 wrote:I am applying for my tier 1 general extension. Could you please help me on the following questions.
1.I had been made redundant in my company . The last month pay includes the salary, holiday pay and bonus, all these pays are taxable pay, I also got the Severance pay(redundancy pay) for extra two months which is taxfree. I know I cannot include the tax free redundant pay in previous earnings, however can I include taxable pays such as the bonus and holiday pay. Also My bank statement shows as X amount(redundant pay + taxable salary), As it is not just taxable salary, Is there any problem here? - You can include Taxable pay, including bonus, unused paid holiday payments etc.

2. In the 12 months yearnings, one of the month, the HR forgot about the pay, then the day before the pay date, they transferred emergency payment through another bank. Because of that the company description in the bank statement for that pay shows as some random numbers instead of the company name, however the amounts in the payslip and the bank statement are matched, is that alright. - YES. This should be fine. Though UKBA would like to see the name of your employer as a reference, random numbers instead of the company name may not be a problem. Just like, you may be working for a business which has a separate trading name as to registered business name.

3. My 2nd employer provide me the payslips in the company headed letterpad, is that alright to show instead of the formal payslips. - Perfectly acceptable

4. My both of the employers company names which is in the bank statement and the present name of the companies are different. However, the amounts in the payslips and the bank statements are matched. Will there be a problem here? - Nope, as mentioned in my response to Q2, this should not cause any problem. A suggestion would be to go in person in case if CW has any queries, you can promptly response. But if you can not get the appointment for PEO, don't go over the board to get one. Q2, 3 or 4 should not jeopardise your application, in my honest opinion.

Apologies but I am not an expert to shed some light on Q1. I would wait for some Seniors or Mods to further comment around redundancy pay etc. If I do find something, I will post here.

Ta


Thanks for helping me on these questions.
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Post by kmj_005 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:15 pm

thanks for your reply. As you said I will wait for the senior member or moderator reply.

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Post by kmj_005 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:35 pm

Regarding the first point, I am still not sure. So I have added some additional details with salary details which may help you. Could a senior member clarify on this issue please. For first point, on my last payslip it is given as follows,

Salary ---- 1500.00
Bonus ----- 600.00
Holiday pay---200.00

Severance TX-- 1800.00
Severance NT -- 3600.00

My normal Salary in the previous payslips are 1800 every month until the last payslip. So my salary is not 1500(it looks they made a mistake or I dont know what happened there or how they calculated 1500), However, they have given the payslips as above. On the above the salary, bonus, holiday pay and the Severance Tx are all taxable pay and the company paid tax for it. The Severance NT(3600) is non taxable.

I am not including the Severance NT as it is not taxable. However my questions as follows,

a) Can I include the taxable pay such as Severance TX, Salary, Bonus and holiday pay (also is the Severance TX means payment in lieu, based on the following wiki link, severance pay can be payment in lieu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severance_package).

b) If incase I cannot include Severance TX, then my salary in the payslips are given wrong by company, As I said my salary is 1800 and not 1500 which is given wrong in payslip), because of that 300 pounds differece I may not meet my earnings criteria. Is there anything I can do on this.

Could you please someone help on this urgently, as this is new to me.

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Post by ScopeD » Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:18 pm

According to the rules, redundancy payment is not considered. The problem is that the £1800 is clearly labelled "Severance Pay". If this is a mistake by payroll, perhaps you should consider asking them to rectify this before you go for your extension.

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Post by kmj_005 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:42 pm

Severance NT is the redundancy pay, My company told me that they will pay the pay in lieu apart from the salary and redundancy pay before I left the company. I think Severance tx is the pay in lieu based on the salary slip. You can also see from the wiki I mentioned, that the redundancy package can include pay in lieu, which means severance pay is not just redundancy pay. Also home office accepts the pay in lieu based on their policy guidance So Could a senior member clarify me on this issue please. thanks anyway scoped for your reply.

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Post by kmj_005 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:39 pm

could a senior member clarify on my issue please. Thank you.

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Post by Manka10 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:50 pm

how much were u paid for the month in question ? if the figures on payslip are wrong then you need to get it corrected from them.

for severance TX, did you serve a notice period for that employer ? if not then this can be payment in lieu of notice which is taxable & considered as earnings
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Post by kmj_005 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:36 pm

Thanks for the reply manka. I am not sure what do you mean by notice period. However, they told me on suddenly had a meeting about redundancy meeting on3rd jan, we will be made redundant in one week, if we want to accept it. I accepted it, so 10 jan i finished working with the company, and didn't work for the rest of the 20 days in that month. I got paid the following amounts for that month

Salary ---- 1500.00
Bonus ----- 600.00
Holiday pay---200.00

Severance TX-- 1800.00
Severance NT -- 3600.00

Tax ---- 890(tax for salary, bonus, hoiday pay and severance TX)

Out of these, they taxed my salary, bonus, holiday pay and severance TX. They didn't tax the severance NT. Until december I was getting 1800 per month. My questions are,
1. So I dont know what is that 1500 salary?( rather than 1800). Because of that I am missing 300pounds in earnings which didn't meet my earning requirement (if I just include Salary, holiday pay and bonus in my earnings). Do you think it is their mistake, as I am not clear about this last month redundancy payslip. (My company will not help on any issues, except reference as they made the redundancy agreement in that way, I also requested them again). Here I didn't include severance TX in the earnings for the application. Also Because of this, my Net pay is not clear enough, my tax for that month includes the tax of severance tx pay, bonus and salary. If I may apply with this pay(salary, bonus and hoiday pay), can I calculate the net pay by myself and include that in the cover letter?


2. Can I include Severance TX in the earnings. If I include, I will satisfy my earnings requirements.

Could you please clarify me on this issue, I got only few days to apply.

Thank you

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Post by kmj_005 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:35 am

Could anyone please reply on this issue. Thankyou

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Post by kmj_005 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:18 am

Could anyone please reply on this issue. Thankyou

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Post by Manka10 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:22 am

kmj_005 wrote:10 jan i finished working with the company, and didn't work for the rest of the 20 days in that month. I got paid the following amounts for that month

Salary ---- 1500.00
Bonus ----- 600.00
Holiday pay---200.00

Severance TX-- 1800.00
Severance NT -- 3600.00

Tax ---- 890(tax for salary, bonus, hoiday pay and severance TX)

Out of these, they taxed my salary, bonus, holiday pay and severance TX. They didn't tax the severance NT. Until december I was getting 1800 per month. My questions are,
1. So I dont know what is that 1500 salary?( rather than 1800). Because of that I am missing 300pounds in earnings which didn't meet my earning requirement (if I just include Salary, holiday pay and bonus in my earnings). Do you think it is their mistake, as I am not clear about this last month redundancy payslip. (My company will not help on any issues, except reference as they made the redundancy agreement in that way, I also requested them again). Here I didn't include severance TX in the earnings for the application. Also Because of this, my Net pay is not clear enough, my tax for that month includes the tax of severance tx pay, bonus and salary. If I may apply with this pay(salary, bonus and hoiday pay), can I calculate the net pay by myself and include that in the cover letter?

2. Can I include Severance TX in the earnings. If I include, I will satisfy my earnings requirements.

Could you please clarify me on this issue, I got only few days to apply.

Thank you
You can include severance TX in your earnings as you have paid tax on it

according to HO anything that is taxable can be included in earnings so severance TX can be construed as payment in lieu of notice

you cannot include severance NT as this is redundancy pay & not taxable

regarding the incorrect figure on your pay slip (£300 less than normal monthly salary) you need to ask your company what deductions have been made. they must be able to explain all figures & deductions on the payslip

have you seen the redundancy agreement & do you have a copy of that ? it may be able to answer some of your questions

when is your leave expiring ?
Manka

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Post by kmj_005 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:47 am

Thanks for your reply. My visa expires on 15th of june, but i will apply now. Reducdancy agreement didn't give clear information in nos, as they didn't prepare about the exact money when they prepared the redundancy agreement, however they said they will pay the pay in lieu. Thanks anyway for your reply, i will include Severance Tx in my appllcation. Hopefully it should be alright.

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