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Post by avishek_1119 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:58 am

Hi,
I am an IT professional.I have applied for German WP from my company. My company has thier branch in Germany as well. In the residential application form I did not mention my residential address just mentioned "will be decided later" (becoz I did not have the exact address, but The city is Dusseldorf). In my invitaion leter from my German employer the city name is mentioned. In the job description and covering letter from company the city name is mentioned. But I am not sure if the absence of city name in the aplication form can cause any problem in getting the visa. Please put some feedback on this.

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Post by Wanderer » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:48 pm

avishek_1119 wrote:Hi,
I am an IT professional.I have applied for German WP from my company. My company has thier branch in Germany as well. In the residential application form I did not mention my residential address just mentioned "will be decided later" (becoz I did not have the exact address, but The city is Dusseldorf). In my invitaion leter from my German employer the city name is mentioned. In the job description and covering letter from company the city name is mentioned. But I am not sure if the absence of city name in the aplication form can cause any problem in getting the visa. Please put some feedback on this.
Been there, bought the tee-shirt!

The way it 'seems' to work (or it did with us) is you'll get a single entry visitor type visa which you must exchange in country to a residence permit for 50 Euro. We applied from UK (Russian Citizen) and the whole process took just over four and a half months.

I think u might want to look into the 'van der Elst' visa which is for intra-company transfers. From what I read tho the German authorities have got in some trouble for not recognising this kind of visa.

German immigration is a nightmare, slow and beaucratic.

Good luck

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Post by avishek_1119 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:03 pm

I think 'van der Elst' is the right kind of Visa. But I dint know abt it niether does the HR of my company.Even the agent (a Globe Forex guy) suggested to apply for the residential permit.I really need by a months time since my project work has already started. Just a little bit tensed abt it. Lets hope for the best.

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Post by Wanderer » Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:20 pm

avishek_1119 wrote:I think 'van der Elst' is the right kind of Visa. But I dint know abt it niether does the HR of my company.Even the agent (a Globe Forex guy) suggested to apply for the residential permit.I really need by a months time since my project work has already started. Just a little bit tensed abt it. Lets hope for the best.
What country are you from?

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Post by avishek_1119 » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:20 am

m from India.

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Post by avishek_1119 » Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:40 am

Does the German consolate refuse to provide provide the work permit staright away? Or they may ask for more information to process the WP?

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Post by Wanderer » Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:51 pm

avishek_1119 wrote:Does the German consolate refuse to provide provide the work permit staright away? Or they may ask for more information to process the WP?
What happened with us was we made appointment with embassy in London and went down and gave in papers. The girl said then it would take three months siince papers are sent to German Labour Office for checking in Germany.

After weeks of nothing happening, her employer in germany recieved a form to fill in and return, this went on for ages.

Then we called the German Labour office and they said yes, we will send you the authorisation for the visa to be issued. Lord knows why we had to do that, basically the application had stopped at that point. So we recieved the authorisation and faxed it to another bloody Germany beaurocrat and the visa was issued. As I said it was simple single entry visa, much like a tourist visa, and we were instructed to exchange it ASAP in germany at the some other bloody office and not leave until she had!

I'd say German language is a must if u need to chase up the visa as we did. Otherwise we'd still be waiting.

Nightmare!!

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Post by avishek_1119 » Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:42 pm

Is there any way to know the statu sof your German WP application? I don wanna run to the consolate. May be some kind of site or if the German labour office website.

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Post by Wanderer » Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:56 pm

avishek_1119 wrote:Is there any way to know the statu sof your German WP application? I don wanna run to the consolate. May be some kind of site or if the German labour office website.
U can phone the consulate but they just say it's with the German Labour Office. Or you can phone the German Labour Office (in Germany) but u'd need to speak German.

There was no website that we could find!

Sorry but it was really like banging our heads on the wall with the Germans, UK visas are so much easier!

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Post by avishek_1119 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:41 am

Well m already feeling the pressure since i really gotta move to my German office real quick. Tell me one more thing. Do they reject your WP application straight away...if they find few required papers are missing? or they come up asking for more info from our end(me or my employer). Just to add on the information I haven't directly applied for the WP.My German Employer has done so on my behalf.

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Post by Wanderer » Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:24 pm

avishek_1119 wrote:Well m already feeling the pressure since i really gotta move to my German office real quick. Tell me one more thing. Do they reject your WP application straight away...if they find few required papers are missing? or they come up asking for more info from our end(me or my employer). Just to add on the information I haven't directly applied for the WP.My German Employer has done so on my behalf.
No mate, ur supposed to give them copies of the documents they need as listed on the app form, which e took down to consulate. Then they still took the originals and copied them, not all the ones listed and returned all originals and the copies we made. I suppose they need to see be sure the copies are bona fide.

The WP was never rejected but more info was requested from the employer and the university (this being a student placement) so I guess they will contact ur employer for sure.

I understood the employee should apply for the WP, not the employer, as in UK?

Feel free to ask me for more info, the saga we had with this German WP is gonna occupy several chapters when I write my autobiography.....

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Post by avishek_1119 » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:39 am

In my case my German Employer applied for the WP along eith other correspondence(invitaion letter etc.). I gotta interesting question here. How early you should apply for the WP prior to your travel? Is there any specification about it? I beleive if you apply close to your departure date, that should npt be a problem.Depending upon when I'm getting the WP my departure date will alter. In my case I have applied prior to 8 working days of my departure. My departure date already gone so wil have a modified departure date. But could there any impact on processing my WP?

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Post by avishek_1119 » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:20 am

Any answers to my query?

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Post by Wanderer » Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:30 pm

avishek_1119 wrote:In my case my German Employer applied for the WP along eith other correspondence(invitaion letter etc.). I gotta interesting question here. How early you should apply for the WP prior to your travel? Is there any specification about it? I beleive if you apply close to your departure date, that should npt be a problem.Depending upon when I'm getting the WP my departure date will alter. In my case I have applied prior to 8 working days of my departure. My departure date already gone so wil have a modified departure date. But could there any impact on processing my WP?
The German consulate in UK said WP processing takes 6-10 weeks, so I'd say it would be prudent to apply three months in advance.

As I said before, the official at the Consulate said it would take 'at least three months' and she was right, it took four and a half.....

We asked for visa for Sept 2006 until end of placement end of Feb 2007. In the end we got the WP from end Nov 2006 till end Feb 2007. I suspect the start date was calculated purely on approval date plus a week.

Don't forget too you don't actually get a WP at this stage, it's a single entry entrance visa that appears in you passport. On arrival in Germany you need to go to the local Labour Office ASAP and they'll put the WP in, actually a residence permit for 50 Euros. This office will have all the details, that's what must have been happening during the previous 20 weeks......

I'd say applying 8 days before hand is optimism extreme, these German Officials are sllllooowwwwwww....

As can been seen above, it won't actually effect processing times, they'll just date the visa as they see fit, ie about a week after they process it.

HTH

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Post by avishek_1119 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:14 am

Thanks for the post. While filing up the resident permit application form I have not written anything on those sections which were not applicable for me(I haven't wrote 'N/A' also). But I heard form a colleague of mine that one should write 'N/A' to those sections of the form which are not applicable. What u say? Can there be an issue due to this?

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Post by Wanderer » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:39 am

avishek_1119 wrote:Thanks for the post. While filing up the resident permit application form I have not written anything on those sections which were not applicable for me(I haven't wrote 'N/A' also). But I heard form a colleague of mine that one should write 'N/A' to those sections of the form which are not applicable. What u say? Can there be an issue due to this?
To be honest I can't say but with the Germans being sticklers for accuracy and reknown bureaucrats I'd say they'd want to see the boxes filled in correctly or crossed out.

Why not call them and ask for progress? They won't really tell you much but at least they will say if the application is on hold if form not filled in correctly etc.

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Post by avishek_1119 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:55 am

U're right but if the application is n hold and i assume the form is not filled properly....dont u think they would have come back to my employer or me? I mean its over a month now.....still no response from thier end....so can i assume that things are going in the right direction or anything can land up at any time?

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Post by coolamtya » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:00 am

Hey Wanderer,somewhere in this post, you mentioned that one can inquire about the progress of one's WP application with the authorities in Germany on Phone.
Can you give me this phone number please?

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Post by Wanderer » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:53 am

coolamtya wrote:Hey Wanderer,somewhere in this post, you mentioned that one can inquire about the progress of one's WP application with the authorities in Germany on Phone.
Can you give me this phone number please?
I have this number, it's a Bonn number 212.12 53107 on the letter we have, 0049 for Germany is all I know, so I presume u dial that first. I think it's the student section (Studentenvermittlung), my partner's WP was for placement, but they should be able to put u thru to right section.

Be prepared to speak German tho, you'll need to when u get there anyway!

I shall call her later and ask is she has any other numbers, she rang a few and we have to phone bill to show!

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Post by coolamtya » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:56 am

Thanks, Wanderer for the info.
I need to find a similar number at Stuttgart.

My wife can manage to speak german, so should be ok on that count.

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Post by Wanderer » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:39 pm

avishek_1119 wrote:U're right but if the application is n hold and i assume the form is not filled properly....dont u think they would have come back to my employer or me? I mean its over a month now.....still no response from thier end....so can i assume that things are going in the right direction or anything can land up at any time?
You can't assume anything with the Germans! I've spoked to the gf and she tells me that the labour office in Bonn authorised her WP, and were supposed to send it to Hamburg local labour office to issue visa. They didn't and it just sat there. I've she hadn't have called it would still be sat there. They then sent it to her in UK and we faxed it to the Hamburg labour office and they did their bit, consulate contacted us and issued the visa.

Can't hurt to call the local consulate.

Un-bloody-believable!

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Post by Wanderer » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:42 pm

coolamtya wrote:Thanks, Wanderer for the info.
I need to find a similar number at Stuttgart.

My wife can manage to speak german, so should be ok on that count.
I spoke to her and it was the local labour office in Hamburg where she was to be working she spoke to. She got the number off the net, some bloke was being deported and published the number in his blog so people could call and petition for his stay!

The hamburg office gave us the Bonn number. I think it's the Bonn office that actually approves the visa and the tells the local office to issue it.

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Post by coolamtya » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:53 pm

Thanks for all the info, Wanderer
Its not even a week since I applied to the consulate.Will let a couple of weeks pass by and then call the Bonn number given by you

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Post by avishek_1119 » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:29 am

Its 6 weeks now...no updates abt my WP. Its really frustrating....

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