restricted CoS application

[Elaine_London]

Hello, just a quick question to ask where the employer needs to add the qualifications required for the post, such as degree and proof of work experience - in Sponsor's note or somewhere else? I apologize if the question appears dumb, but I do not have the access to the SMS and I need to explain how to apply for CoS to the employer. I cannot find the information in the guidance either. Also is it necessary to mention this information in the CoS application as well, and if yes, where?

Thanks in advance.

Elaine

[madona587]

Hi, SMS doesn't ask for your qualifications. You have to submit this with your TIER2G application in support of your English language requirement. (I don't know how this works now since the TIER2 G application itself has gone online. I applied with the application form and attached my certificate as a proof of my English language requirements)

Your company has to put down the Job title, Job description, Salary, working hours, Start & end date and bunch of other details.

Other than that your qualifications are not needed for TIER2.

[Elaine_London]

Thanks, yes, I know, but I understand they also should mention how they assessed my abilities to fill the post, such as degree if required and work experience, such as reference letter from previous employers. I guess they should mention it in the Sponsor's Note when they assign the CoS to me?

[geriatrix]

Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me decide. I was initially expected to be assigned an unrestricted CoS and switch from Tier 4 into Tier 2 back in April. However my sponsor only applied for the licence on 15 February and got the e-mail about the licence approval on 04 May and login to SMS only on 9 May, I had already left the UK by then, as my Tier 4 leave had expired in April. The RLMT had been completed in April. So now I need a restricted CoS to apply, I’m trying to explain to my employer that the restricted CoS request needs to be submitted ASAP, and supplied all the details that needs to be copied and pasted into the SMS, but they have been busy and stalling it for almost a week now. My SOC code is 3543, so it is according to new rules in force from 14 June under NQF 4, not under “graduate occupations” as before. I only have a chance to apply if I apply on 13 June.
I have 3 questions:
1. If, hopefully the request is finally submitted today or tomorrow, with the letter requesting CoS exceptionally, what is the chance to get an exceptional allocation still in May, i.e. before the next round is considered on 11 June? Do they frequently approve urgent requests, and what we can put for reasons, except for disruption of work pattern since April already caused by Sponsor Licence delay?
2. If the application is not approved for May, but only granted in June allocations, what is the chance of getting it exactly on 11 June? I have seen somewhere that UKBA ” informs” the Sponsor within 5 working days from the 11th only, i.e. if successful, can the CoS be granted on 14 June or later?
3. Further point – I understand that the old SOC codes before 14 June are valid if an entry clearance is applied for up to and including 13 June. Can the date of entry clearance application be later than the date of CoS assigned? I.e. the date of entry clearance application is the date of online application and payment, and online application does not require CoS number, the appendix with job details has to be printed and submitted by hand before the appointment in visa centre. So I can technically apply and pay for the entry clearance now. Question is – if in the worst case scenario the CoS will be granted and assigned only on or after 14 June – will my entry clearance application still be considered valid if I only submit the supporting documents on or after 14 June? Will it not be the grounds for refusal?
If I don’t stand a chance with the above, is the only option left - choose another SOC code from NQF6 and for the employer to start the RLMT again, and after that again apply for CoS?
Thanks in advance.

[madona587]

Thanks, yes, I know, but I understand they also should mention how they assessed my abilities to fill the post, such as degree if required and work experience, such as reference letter from previous employers. I guess they should mention it in the Sponsor's Note when they assign the CoS to me?

Have they done a RLMT for your job ? If so they have to put down the details in the COS. There is a section for that, I'm not sure exactly what needs to be put though. Check the guidelines mate. Ask your Level1 user to contact UKBA. They are quite helpful with SMS.

Sponsor note is used to manage live certificates. Means say your level1 user misspelled your name in the cos and assigned it to you and wants to correct this he can do this by adding a sponsor note. Don't stress about this but get your HR/Level1 user to contact UKBA and get clear instructions.

EDIT: Sorry didn't see the post above. You need RCOS and I have no idea how to assign one. I'm sure there will be a specific section for this.

[Elaine_London]

Thanks, I have to give them all info myself as the HR, level 1 user and my line manager is the same person, and is extremely busy now...it's a very small company. So I think I've read everything about CoS in all the guidelines published but haven't anything on qualifications. There is a section for RLMT and yes they have done it, they will put end and start dates for the advertisements and the reference numbers. The only question is there is a box with job description - job duties, but I haven't found anywhere the box for qualifications required in the restricted CoS application. Maybe someone knows?

[geriatrix]

3. Further point – I understand that the old SOC codes before 14 June are valid if an entry clearance is applied for up to and including 13 June. Can the date of entry clearance application be later than the date of CoS assigned? I.e. the date of entry clearance application is the date of online application and payment, and online application does not require CoS number, the appendix with job details has to be printed and submitted by hand before the appointment in visa centre. So I can technically apply and pay for the entry clearance now. Question is – if in the worst case scenario the CoS will be granted and assigned only on or after 14 June – will my entry clearance application still be considered valid if I only submit the supporting documents on or after 14 June? Will it not be the grounds for refusal?

Date of EC application is the date you pay the fees. If you have not been assigned a RCoS on that date, then it is possible that your EC application may be considered invalid ... as a Tier 2 EC application requires a valid RCoS to be associated with it.

I am unable to comment on the online form but guidance states that you must provide the RCoS details with the application. And I see no reason why making an online application will make it any different.

[madona587]

but I haven't found anywhere the box for qualifications required in the restricted CoS application. Maybe someone knows?

Maybe there is no such requirement But wait for others to comment on this..

[Elaine_London]

Date of EC application is the date you pay the fees. If you have not been assigned a RCoS on that date, then it is possible that your EC application may be considered invalid ... as a Tier 2 EC application requires a valid RCoS to be associated with it.

I am unable to comment on the online form but the paper form requires that you provide the RCoS details with the application. And I see no reason why making an online application will make it any different.

Maybe it is different in each country, but in Russia the entry clearance online form only has the personal details, such as passport details, etc. And in Russia the only way to pay the fees is online with the online application, otherwise you can't choose the appointment date. The job details must be mentioned in the appendix. The appendix is a pdf form that needs to be printed and filled-in by hand and submitted with the supporting documents. It has the details of the post, salary, etc. RCoS number, end and start dates, but it does not mention the date RCOS was granted or assigned.

Still, I see your point that it is too risky to apply without CoS assigned...

[manci]

All the information the employer has to enter when assigning a CoS through the SMS is here:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

[geriatrix]

in Russia the entry clearance online form only has the personal details, such as passport details, etc. And in Russia the only way to pay the fees is online with the online application, otherwise you can't choose the appointment date.

In other words, the date you submit the online form is the date you pay the fess and that date is the date of application.

RCoS number

And from that in hand and access to the appropriate database, it is possible for UKBA staff to to see when the RCoS was issued / assigned.

[Elaine_London]

We got the allocation of RCOS yesterday, will be assigned now and I can now apply for entry clearance, hurrrrayyy!
Can I ask again how do you go about putting qualifications when assigning CoS, difficult to get through to ukba helpline from here…
I’ve found here
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
that on page 39 they say
“You must inform your worker of any documents that have been used to assess their suitability for the job. The worker must produce the documents specified in the CoS when they submit their application for leave.”
So, they say that cos must mention documents to assess suitability, which must mean qualifications, I assume. I used to have a work permit in 2008 and the employer then sent them references from previous employers and degrees, professional certificates etc. as tier 2 is more or less continuation of work permit, there should be something here as well.

All the guidelines are very thorough, but I can’t find any box in the guidelines that mentions qualifications or “documents to assess suitability”, does it mean they need to put this list in sponsor’s notes?
I think that assigning restricted CoS and unrestricted CoS must generally be more or less the same in terms of this requirement?

thanks!