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190 days of absence - including dates of leaving and coming

Post by jagbir » Sun May 27, 2012 3:08 am

Hi,
I have a PEO appointment for ILR in Jun-2012 at Croydon. In the last 5 years I have 190 days of absences from UK (including dates of leaving and returning) or 174 days (excluding dates of leaving and coming back). Do you guys think this could be more than the allowed and cause a problem for me?

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Re: 190 days of absence - including dates of leaving and com

Post by geriatrix » Sun May 27, 2012 10:41 am

jagbir wrote:174 days (excluding dates of leaving and coming back). Do you guys think this could be more than the allowed and cause a problem for me?
No.
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Post by orbis2 » Mon May 28, 2012 9:59 am

I am going to apply for ILR in August & I have 176 days off from UK (business - 10 days & 166 paid holidays) which exclude day IN & Day Out.

It is the same case as your's so nothing to worry. But please share your outcome as your ILR is due in June before me.

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Re: 190 days of absence - including dates of leaving and com

Post by singhmohit » Mon May 28, 2012 10:31 am

jagbir wrote:Hi,
I have a PEO appointment for ILR in Jun-2012 at Croydon. In the last 5 years I have 190 days of absences from UK (including dates of leaving and returning) or 174 days (excluding dates of leaving and coming back). Do you guys think this could be more than the allowed and cause a problem for me?
elo mate,
depends how you've counted the number of days... did you looked at the stamps in your passports?
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Post by ITGraduate » Mon May 28, 2012 11:53 am

Orbis2,

Dont worry, you are in no trouble as long as your absence were no more than 90 days in a row

Thanks,

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Re: 190 days of absence - including dates of leaving and com

Post by jagbir » Mon May 28, 2012 7:41 pm

singhmohit wrote:
jagbir wrote:Hi,
I have a PEO appointment for ILR in Jun-2012 at Croydon. In the last 5 years I have 190 days of absences from UK (including dates of leaving and returning) or 174 days (excluding dates of leaving and coming back). Do you guys think this could be more than the allowed and cause a problem for me?
elo mate,
depends how you've counted the number of days... did you looked at the stamps in your passports?
mohit
These have been counted by the exact travel days from the air tickets. I had saved all the tickets and also maintained an accurate log for each of my travels. The details are as below (based on actual travel):


Vacation ---- Date of Dep. --- Date of Arr. -- Days -- Days

Vacation1 ** 09/12/2007 ** 01/01/2008 ** 24 ** 22
Vacation2 ** 23/05/2008 ** 09/06/2008 ** 18 ** 16
Vacation3 ** 05/12/2008 ** 11/01/2009 ** 38 ** 36
Vacation4 ** 12/06/2009 ** 05/07/2009 ** 24 ** 22
Vacation5 ** 15/10/2009 ** 15/11/2009 ** 32 ** 30
Vacation6 ** 26/05/2010 ** 23/06/2010 ** 29 ** 27
Vacation7 ** 16/12/2010 ** 28/12/2010 ** 13 ** 11
Vacation8 ** 21/04/2011 ** 02/05/2011 ** 12 ** 10
______________________________TOTAL 190 ** 174

The dates of the stamps in the passport match exactly for the days when I came back (stamp at Heathrow). The stamps for the days when I left from UK are 1 day after the departure from here (arrival stamp in India).

I am planning to provide the bank statements/payslips (wherever available) for these periods to prove that I was getting paid and none of them were unpaid leaves. Apart from that I do have P60/P45 for all the years that I have been here.

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Post by singhmohit » Mon May 28, 2012 8:08 pm

thanks jagbir - your reply is most helpful...
follow up question...
this means the "Indian Immigration Stamps" on your passports are like:
10/12/2007
24/05/2008
06/12/2008
13/06/2009
16/10/2009
27/05/2010 and so on...

Is that right?

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Post by jagbir » Mon May 28, 2012 8:48 pm

singhmohit wrote:thanks jagbir - your reply is most helpful...
follow up question...
this means the "Indian Immigration Stamps" on your passports are like:
10/12/2007
24/05/2008
06/12/2008
13/06/2009
16/10/2009
27/05/2010 and so on...

Is that right?
Yes that is correct.

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Post by singhmohit » Mon May 28, 2012 8:56 pm

Thanks jagbir, that helps
Mohit

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Post by jagbir » Mon May 28, 2012 9:30 pm

singhmohit wrote:Thanks jagbir, that helps
Mohit
So you think I should be fine with these number of absences if I go for ILR next month?

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Post by singhmohit » Mon May 28, 2012 9:32 pm

I'm pretty sure, you'll be fine mate.
But this is just an opnion and not professional advice ;)
Mohit

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Re: 190 days of absence - including dates of leaving and com

Post by jagbir » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:50 am

jagbir wrote:Hi,
I have a PEO appointment for ILR in Jun-2012 at Croydon. In the last 5 years I have 190 days of absences from UK (including dates of leaving and returning) or 174 days (excluding dates of leaving and coming back). Do you guys think this could be more than the allowed and cause a problem for me?
Hi guys,

My PEO appointment for ILR on 18-06-2012, at Croydon, went fine. My ILR was approved. Below are a few of my observations about the whole process:

1. Now the documents check before the payment is taken is a very basic check of only the form.
2. In total you end up talking to 5 people (on 5 different desks). These are: form check, payment, initial application entry into the system, biometric and the final case worker.
3. The last one (with the final case worker) is the most crucial one.
4. My appointment was for 10:40, I had entered the building at 10:00 and left at 15:45 in the afternoon.

But in the end the tedious 6 hours paid off!!

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Post by ron17 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:35 pm

Congrats for your ILR!!!

I hope my appointment will go well too!!

Just a quick question, when I go back to HK, I dont get an arrival stamp in my passport as Im HK citizen (like UK citizens dont get passport stamp when they come back to the UK). How does UKBA know the leaving date I put on the form is accurate?

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Post by cs95tdg » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:51 pm

ron17 wrote:Just a quick question, when I go back to HK, I dont get an arrival stamp in my passport as Im HK citizen (like UK citizens dont get passport stamp when they come back to the UK). How does UKBA know the leaving date I put on the form is accurate?
The UKBA have access to systems such as e-borders to verify.

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Post by ron17 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:24 pm

cs95tdg wrote:
ron17 wrote:Just a quick question, when I go back to HK, I dont get an arrival stamp in my passport as Im HK citizen (like UK citizens dont get passport stamp when they come back to the UK). How does UKBA know the leaving date I put on the form is accurate?
The UKBA have access to systems such as e-borders to verify.
Thank you for the reply.

What should I put as the date of leaving the UK in the situation below?

When I went to HK last year, my flight was cancelled after I gone through security and the replacement flight is the next day afternoon.

ie.
original scheduled departure date is 01/12/2011

Flight got cancelled after 4/5 hours delay and stayed at hotel nearby overnight.

replacement flight departure date is 02/12/2011

I have gone through border control and security on both days. If HO can check on the system and they see me going out the UK two days in a row, will it be a problem when I go for my PEO appointment?

Thank you.

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Post by cs95tdg » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:22 pm

ron17 wrote: What should I put as the date of leaving the UK in the situation below?

When I went to HK last year, my flight was cancelled after I gone through security and the replacement flight is the next day afternoon.

ie. original scheduled departure date is 01/12/2011

Flight got cancelled after 4/5 hours delay and stayed at hotel nearby overnight.

replacement flight departure date is 02/12/2011

I have gone through border control and security on both days. If HO can check on the system and they see me going out the UK two days in a row, will it be a problem when I go for my PEO appointment?

Thank you.
It would be the replacement flight departure date "02/12/2011" as that was the date you actually left the UK. If you have your boarding pass you can include it with a covering letter to explain, in case the question arises. I wouldn't worry about it though.

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Post by ron17 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:05 pm

cs95tdg wrote:
ron17 wrote: What should I put as the date of leaving the UK in the situation below?

When I went to HK last year, my flight was cancelled after I gone through security and the replacement flight is the next day afternoon.

ie. original scheduled departure date is 01/12/2011

Flight got cancelled after 4/5 hours delay and stayed at hotel nearby overnight.

replacement flight departure date is 02/12/2011

I have gone through border control and security on both days. If HO can check on the system and they see me going out the UK two days in a row, will it be a problem when I go for my PEO appointment?

Thank you.
It would be the replacement flight departure date "02/12/2011" as that was the date you actually left the UK. If you have your boarding pass you can include it with a covering letter to explain, in case the question arises. I wouldn't worry about it though.
Thank you for your reply.

We didn't get a new boarding pass, we used the original boarding pass to board the replacement flight.

I do have some letters from the airlines though, I will bring them with me to my appointment in case they ask about this.

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