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This is a discussion board. Not an immigration lawyers company.i would like to see if you help can help me bring a case for damages on the principles of state liability(francovich & factortame) and also maybe on grounds of failure to implement a directive(von colson)- restricting freedom of movement on a no win no fee basis?
Ok, so caring for the baby should qualify as a durable relationship. Did you apply for a residence card?weareawesome wrote:in 2005 i entered the u.k. on a 6 month visa issued at the border as a non-eu national to visit my british mother.
during my visit i met a girl, fell in love and then we had a baby in 2006.
This is wrong, and the key question is: do you have that in writing? Did you apply for a residence card, or did you just take a word on the phone for correct?liverpool HO then told me that i cannot apply for a residency certificate from the u.k. and that i had to apply for the residency from my wife’s country of origin.
And I think they are correct - a durable relationship allows you to apply, but it does not automatically grant you the right to stay. So the 5 year rule does not apply.last year i applied for permanent residency based on durable relationship and marriage and living together and working in the uk for more than 7 years now and they rejected the application based on the fact that i was not here legally during the entire residency period.
This is a game they are playing, and you have to know how to play it. They send your evidence back to allow you to amend the application. All you have to do is to resubmit, and the case continues. If you fail to resubmit, it is considered withdrawn.please note how the letter from the home office does not give a valid reason for rejecting and that the tribunal
says that it is not an immigration matter.
yes i know that they think it is a game, but it should not be a game because it made us suffer and limited our ability to compete fairly and that is why they are liable for playing a game with peoples lives.thsths wrote:Nice read, but I have three things to say about this.
a) If you are a law student, you should do you homework, and come up with a much better plan of action. Asking for a "no win no fee" lawyer is a terrible idea, and you should know that good representation has a price. You should also know that you need to be much clearer in your claim, and you need to have proof. You should also know that you are pursuing a civil claim, and you have to do this in a civil court.
i think good lawyers know that they can often make more money on a no win no fee basis and yes as a law student i know that there aren't many good lawyers confident enough to represent immigration cases for the simple fact that they could go either way. i am in the second d year of my law degree now and i know that the civil matter needs to be taken to high court. i have already taken it to tribunal and apealled
b) Did you do things right, or did you just blindly follow bad advice given over the phone (and with no record, I guess)? Getting married abroad was a reasonably good idea, going to Poland was not. Did you apply for a residence card using EEA2? Did you get refused? Did you appeal? Did you break the law by working here illegally? These are absolutely crucial questions to your case.
yes i had to work in our family business and i was granted the 5 year residence permit and they said i can only apply for permanent in 2014
c) So what is your claim? Where did the UKBA make a legally wrong decision, and how exactly did this lead to inevitable damages? Once you can define your claim, it is worth discussing here.
my claim is that they did not allow me to legalise myself and then said that i was here illegally. they do allow people apply to now but it was different in 2005. failure to implement a directive in accordance with it's purpose.
Ok, so caring for the baby should qualify as a durable relationship. Did you apply for a residence card?weareawesome wrote:in 2005 i entered the u.k. on a 6 month visa issued at the border as a non-eu national to visit my british mother.
during my visit i met a girl, fell in love and then we had a baby in 2006.
yes i got the residence card for 5 years and it is valid now. i wish i could include the reply rejecting the PR and the Appeal letter from tribunal because this is where the game gets interesting.
This is wrong, and the key question is: do you have that in writing? Did you apply for a residence card, or did you just take a word on the phone for correct?liverpool HO then told me that i cannot apply for a residency certificate from the u.k. and that i had to apply for the residency from my wife’s country of origin.
yes i have had my residence card for 3 years now
and
no i do not have the responses by home office in writing in writing, but it was widely published and it is widely know that you could not apply as an unmarried partner in 2005 so evidence should not be needed.
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plus if i could apply in that same situation today it will be a granted.(failure to implement)
And I think they are correct - a durable relationship allows you to apply, but it does not automatically grant you the right to stay. So the 5 year rule does not apply.last year i applied for permanent residency based on durable relationship and marriage and living together and working in the uk for more than 7 years now and they rejected the application based on the fact that i was not here legally during the entire residency period.
that may be correct but it is directly discriminatory because they allow uk nationals to apply on this basis. my wife now has permanent residency and i do not.
This is a game they are playing, and you have to know how to play it. They send your evidence back to allow you to amend the application. All you have to do is to resubmit, and the case continues. If you fail to resubmit, it is considered withdrawn.please note how the letter from the home office does not give a valid reason for rejecting and that the tribunal
says that it is not an immigration matter.
weareawesome wrote:i don't think that i was here illegally because they did NOT provide me with a fair option to legalise myself
during the first 3 years after my daughter was born.
but that is besides the point though,
because
they do allow people people to apply under durable relationship unmarried relationship now which means that it was unfair towards me since i made repeated attempts before my 6 month visa ran out to legalise myself.
the basis of the the law on free movement is pretty clear in that a member state should not restrict free movement.
someone in my situation today will not have a problem applying but what is very important is to remember that in 2005 things were not as easy as they are now for unmarried partners and on that basis it is unfair an discriminatory.
weareawesome wrote: they did NOT provide me with a fair option to legalise myself
during the first 3 years after my daughter was born.
So did you actually have an option or not?!weareawesome wrote: it is too much to ask the father of a newborn baby to leave his wife a child and fly halfway around the world