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Thank you for the file.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:You do not need to fill out any information in the visa application form about where either of you are presently working, where you will be working in the UK, or about your assets.
I think it is best to not answer those questions entirely. In fact it is a good idea to include a cover letter roughly with the content of https://dl.dropbox.com/u/27885818/priva ... rdraft.doc
About this do you know something?Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:What if the question was "What is your favourite colour?" or "Where did you first see your spouse naked?".
They can ask all sorts of things on the application, but there are only a few types of questions which are relevant for a decision, and only those must be answered.
It does not matter what reason you are going to the UK for. Quick visit overnight? To live the rest of your life? It does not matter!
Diatta is the name of the case.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Basically how a married couple arranges their life is generally no business of UKBA. So if one works in Birmingham and the other works in London, that is in itself not a problem.
I think there must have been a ECJ case with very similar facts to what you are asking about, but I am not sure of the name of the case.
This letter is really great! Thanks!Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:You do not need to fill out any information in the visa application form about where either of you are presently working, where you will be working in the UK, or about your assets.
I think it is best to not answer those questions entirely. In fact I think it is a good idea to include a cover letter roughly with the content of https://dl.dropbox.com/u/27885818/priva ... rdraft.doc
one question:Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:You do not need to fill out any information in the visa application form about where either of you are presently working, where you will be working in the UK, or about your assets.
I think it is best to not answer those questions entirely. In fact I think it is a good idea to include a cover letter roughly with the content of https://dl.dropbox.com/u/27885818/priva ... rdraft.doc
I can provide the translated greek document also but not APOSTILLE stamped. APOSTILLE stamp from Greece can take up to one month to reach my hand...Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:I personally think it is a mistake to provide more than the certificate.
I live in Turkey but I get married in Greece. My family booklet (which contains the marriage certifcate is international according to convention of Paris of 12 September 1974) is issued from turkish authorities since we live here since 2006.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:You live in Turkey and got married in Turkey. Why do you have a Greek marriage certificate and why is it relevant?
Or am I just confused?
I married in Turkey, and I bet you are referring to the booklet with the red cover. When my wife asked her EEA family permit, the British consulate in Istanbul was happy to accept that without any apostille. Which at the time I found weird, because I was knowing that the UK is not a signatory of any of the CIEC conventions.giorgosa wrote:My family booklet (which contains the marriage certifcate is international according to convention of Paris of 12 September 1974) is issued from turkish authorities since we live here since 2006.
Yes I refer to the booklet with the red cover and your answer is so helpful for me...aledeniz wrote:I married in Turkey, and I bet you are referring to the booklet with the red cover. When my wife asked her EEA family permit, the British consulate in Istanbul was happy to accept that without any apostille. Which at the time I found weird, because I was knowing that the UK is not a signatory of any of the CIEC conventions.giorgosa wrote:My family booklet (which contains the marriage certifcate is international according to convention of Paris of 12 September 1974) is issued from turkish authorities since we live here since 2006.
More in detail, the documents issued pursuant the CIEC conventions are usually binding only between signatory states who have ratified such conventions. My understanding is that UK hasn't signed any, let alone ratified. In Turkey they usually don't care, they try to be helpful, if you ask them some certificate in the format established from the CIEC conventions, they will usually happily print that for you, no matter where you will have to use it. In Italy, if by mistake you say you are going to use it in the UK, they will not print that paper for you, no matter what.
P.S.: I was generalising about Italy, you may surely find the office where they will print you a certificate in a CIEC model no matter which country you are going to use those, but anecdotically you may find the nasty ones who will not care a iota about wasting your time for nonsensical reasons more often than elsewhere.
I asked my wife, she confirmed me she remembers she didn't have to translate, or apostille or legalise that booklet. I've still the booklet, and surely it is not apostilled. That said, if I understood good, you say you married in Greece, so I really don't know if that may be considered as a wedding certificate, in our case has ever been accepted as such (by Turkey, which issued it, and by the UK, Italy, Spain and Germany).giorgosa wrote: Yes I refer to the booklet with the red cover and your answer is so helpful for me...
Did you give a translation of this or just a copy of this(since back pages provide translate in all languages)?
At the time I raised my concerns about having to get letters from her employers, I couldn't see as that could be related to me being exercising treaty rights in the UK, but I was told that would have helped the application.Tuesday, dd MMM YYYY
British Consulate General
Istanbul
Attn: Visa Department
Mrs MY WIFE holding a Turkish passport, no. blabla, working
as blabla in our company Bla Bla A.S. Istanbul
offices since xx.mm.yyyy will be travelling to London/UK for family and travel purposes by MMMM YYYY. During her stay all of the travel and accommodation expenses will be covered by her.
We kindly ask you to grant visa for MY WIFE.
Thank you in advance for your kind assistance.
Yours sincerely,
Bla Bla A.S. Istanbul
While I wholeheartedly agree the point you are trying to make, and I did actually raised at the time exactly the same point, I was just reporting anecdotal personal experience.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:For a EEA Family Permit of a direct family member, it does not matter at all where either work (or that they work at all), nor how much money or assets they have. It also does not matter if either of them have a job or even prospects of a job once they enter the UK.
I understand 100%.aledeniz wrote:While I wholeheartedly agree the point you are trying to make, and I did actually raised at the time exactly the same point, I was just reporting anecdotal personal experience.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:For a EEA Family Permit of a direct family member, it does not matter at all where either work (or that they work at all), nor how much money or assets they have. It also does not matter if either of them have a job or even prospects of a job once they enter the UK.