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EEA Economically Self-Sufficient & non-dom

Post by questiontime » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:44 pm

I am an EEA citizen (not a Romanian or Bulgarian) that would like to reside in the UK as an EEA Economically Self-Sufficient person (without dependants/wife) and as a non-dom living off of remittances from abroad. My questions are the following:

1) "Under European law, you do not need to obtain documentation confirming your right of residence in the UK if you are a national of a country in the EEA."

What documents other than an optional registration certificate proove that an EEA Economically Self-Sufficient person resides in the UK? Would a utility bill, bank statement or council tax bill be my proof of residence in the UK? Is a drivers licence a proof of residence?

Since its optional whether or not to apply for a registration certificate and I would be self-sufficient economically and wouldn't work and would live off of remittances from abroad as a non-dom then when/where exactly would I have have to proove I have CSI (Comprehensive Sickness insurance) and sufficient funds/income to justify my status as a EEA Economically Self-Sufficient person? Can I ask immigration at the border to review this status when I enter the UK and confirm my status in writing?

2) Is filing the taxes on the remittances I make to the UK from abroad to pay my utility bills, rent etc. as a non-dom proof that I as an EEA Economically Self-Sufficient person qualify for this status?

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Post by Jambo » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:54 pm

Why are you interested in having proof of residence in the UK?

Unless you plan to apply for a British citizenship in future or to bring family over, then you don't really need to prove anything.

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Post by questiontime » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:33 pm

Jambo wrote:Why are you interested in having proof of residence in the UK?

Unless you plan to apply for a British citizenship in future or to bring family over, then you don't really need to prove anything.
Thanks for your prompt reply.

So what you're saying is that a Treaty rights EEA Economically Self-Sufficient person only needs his/her EEA passport.

What do I need to bring with me at the border to show immigration? Can they ask me for CSI or proof of income/funds?

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Post by Jambo » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:55 pm

You just need to show your passport/ID card at the border. No questions will be asked. No proof other than your identity needs to be shown.

If you don't hold CSI, you will not live under the EEA regulations. The only practical implication would be that you won't be able to obtain Permanent Residence status in the UK after 5 years. You won't have any issues entering the country.

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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:30 pm

Jambo wrote:Why are you interested in having proof of residence in the UK?
I think this is the key question. Is there a special purpose that needs proof?

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Post by questiontime » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:24 am

Jambo wrote:You just need to show your passport/ID card at the border. No questions will be asked. No proof other than your identity needs to be shown.

If you don't hold CSI, you will not live under the EEA regulations. The only practical implication would be that you won't be able to obtain Permanent Residence status in the UK after 5 years. You won't have any issues entering the country.
How is one certain that one has an adequate CSI so as to ensure that one lives under EEA regulations. What should my CSI include?

What else is required to obtain Permanent Residence status in the UK after 5 years? How much money in a bank account/investments and/or income from abroad does one have to have to grant me PR as an EEA Economically Self-Sufficient person? Is the amount required higher if one lives in London vs. rural England?

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Post by jotter » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:34 am

questiontime wrote:
Jambo wrote:You just need to show your passport/ID card at the border. No questions will be asked. No proof other than your identity needs to be shown.

If you don't hold CSI, you will not live under the EEA regulations. The only practical implication would be that you won't be able to obtain Permanent Residence status in the UK after 5 years. You won't have any issues entering the country.
How is one certain that one has an adequate CSI so as to ensure that one lives under EEA regulations. What should my CSI include?

What else is required to obtain Permanent Residence status in the UK after 5 years? How much money in a bank account/investments and/or income from abroad does one have to have to grant me PR as an EEA Economically Self-Sufficient person? Is the amount required higher if one lives in London vs. rural England?
There is no specific guidance from the Home Office on either of these. You should be safe with CSI if it appears to cover most non-emergency procedures. Emergency here is of course purely NHS, so genuinely comprehensive sickness insurance does not exist in the UK. Compare a few policies and use your judgement. If you've made the effort to choose something that covers most things then the UKBA should be satisfied. If your country issues a European Health Insurance Card, then you can also use this instead of a private health insurance policy. Note, though, that you cannot use the UK EHIC for this purpose - it has to be one from your country. As regards money, there is no specific minimum, but the UKBA wants to have confidence that you can get by without needing to make claims on the State. I very much doubt they would go to the level of making distinctions based on where you live. It also doesn't matter whether the money is here or abroad, so long as you have the paperwork to show it. Think along the lines of minimum UK monthly wage for a full time worker and you should be able to prove that from one month to the next you at least have access to that amount of money. It doesn't have to be regular income, though, as long as you can show that the funds are there.

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