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Why complicate things? as it is, you are perfectly alright..............when the time for applying for citizenship comes, indicate your wife is Naturalised and this might aid the process.rebel82 wrote:Hi everyone,
I am No Eu national (PAK) Married to an EU national (PL) I hold 4EUfam since for last 3 years and 3 months and we are married for nearly 4 years.. My spouse is now naturalized Irish citizen and I wanted to know if I can apply for Irish citizenship now or Do I have to switch to Stamp 4 and wait for 3 years before I could apply for Naturalisation? My 4Eufam is still Valid till Dec 2014.
My wife is is working full time for last 8 years and I also have a full time stable and good job. I also sent an e mail to citizenship section but they didn't reply so I thought I would ask here.
Thanks
What I meant by complicating things is that currently you are resident under EU Law, applying as spouse of an Irish National might throw up other issues because your residency prior to applying was not under Irish Immigration Law.rebel82 wrote:Thank you for your reply.. I don't understand how its going to complicate anything? I just want to find out if I can apply now for after 1 and half years or may be 2.. If I can apply now I will save about year and half. I hope you know what I mean..
Hi, Thanks for you reply and information. Your friend was holding 4 EUfam before her husband got naturalized ? Citizenship section doesn't answer e mails I thought I would get some information here. I don't think so many people are in same situation so its hard to get information on this topic. I think I should give it a go.moataz adam wrote:hi, my friend wife applied directly after her husband got naturalized,she got reference and her file current with the minister,they check only if u resident legally during those 3 years regardless of stamp type(4 or 4 eu fam).
any one has similar case?
Did you marry in Ireland or were you already married when you got to Ireland?rebel82 wrote:Hi everyone,
I am No Eu national (PAK) Married to an EU national (PL) I hold 4EUfam since for last 3 years and 3 months and we are married for nearly 4 years.. My spouse is now naturalized Irish citizen and I wanted to know if I can apply for Irish citizenship now or Do I have to switch to Stamp 4 and wait for 3 years before I could apply for Naturalisation? My 4Eufam is still Valid till Dec 2014.
My wife is is working full time for last 8 years and I also have a full time stable and good job. I also sent an e mail to citizenship section but they didn't reply so I thought I would ask here.
Thanks
You are doing the right thing in thinking about options.rebel82 wrote:Yes we got married in Ireland in 2009 and we are living together since then and my wife is here for last 8 years and we both have permanent jobs.
I have sent an e mail to the citizenship section but never got reply I also have booked an appointment with the solicitor so I will find out if I can or no.I also called the immigrant council of Ireland but lady on the phone said No i am not eligible because I am still living as spouse of EU citizen and not the Irish so I can't. There is no problem waiting for another 1 and half year but If I am eligible then I can save that time.
Thank you BenBen wrote:I believe you can apply for naturalisation now. You are the spouse of an Irish national and you have been lawfully resident in Ireland for at least three years.
Those are the conditions of naturalisation based on being the spouse of an Irish citizen. If you meet them, lodge your application.Section 15A wrote:Notwithstanding the provisions of section 15, the Minister may, in his or her absolute discretion, grant an application for a certificate of naturalisation to the non-national spouse of an Irish citizen if satisfied that the applicant—
(a) is of full age,
(b) is of good character,
(c) is married to that citizen for a period of not less than 3 years,
(d) is in a marriage recognised under the laws of the State as subsisting,
(e) and that citizen are living together as husband and wife and that citizen submits to the Minister an affidavit in the prescribed form to that effect,
(f) had immediately before the date of the application a period of one year’s continuous residence in the island of Ireland,
(g) had, during the 4 years immediately preceding that period, a total residence in the island of Ireland amounting to 2 years,
(h) intends in good faith to continue to reside in the island of Ireland after naturalisation, and
(i) has made, either before a judge of the District Court in open court or in such manner as the Minister, for special reasons, allows, a declaration in the prescribed manner, of fidelity to the nation and loyalty to the State.
Thank you very muchBen wrote:Total tripe. That solicitor ought to read the rules a bit more. There's nothing the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act that states that it's necessary to switch or otherwise be resident under "Irish National Law and spend 3 years on that".
Those are the conditions of naturalisation based on being the spouse of an Irish citizen. If you meet them, lodge your application.Section 15A wrote:Notwithstanding the provisions of section 15, the Minister may, in his or her absolute discretion, grant an application for a certificate of naturalisation to the non-national spouse of an Irish citizen if satisfied that the applicant—
(a) is of full age,
(b) is of good character,
(c) is married to that citizen for a period of not less than 3 years,
(d) is in a marriage recognised under the laws of the State as subsisting,
(e) and that citizen are living together as husband and wife and that citizen submits to the Minister an affidavit in the prescribed form to that effect,
(f) had immediately before the date of the application a period of one year’s continuous residence in the island of Ireland,
(g) had, during the 4 years immediately preceding that period, a total residence in the island of Ireland amounting to 2 years,
(h) intends in good faith to continue to reside in the island of Ireland after naturalisation, and
(i) has made, either before a judge of the District Court in open court or in such manner as the Minister, for special reasons, allows, a declaration in the prescribed manner, of fidelity to the nation and loyalty to the State.