Changes to the requirements for biometric residence permits

[ccccp]

I wish to get some discussion regarding recent changes for NON-EU sitizen and impact on the all process.
I think this is rediculus
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ber/60-brp
30 November 2012

From 1 December 2012, the requirement to provide the UK Border Agency with biometric information is changing.

If you are from outside the European Economic Area or Switzerland and you are granted permission to stay in the UK for more than 6 months on or after 1 December 2012, you must apply for a biometric residence permit (if you have not already done so). If you are affected by the change we will write to you about how to apply for your biometric residence permit.

This is to ensure that from 1 December we only issue this new format of immigration status document. This is to meet our obligations under European legislation.
Biometric residence permits are replacing older forms of documentation and the new format is helping employers and other bodies to check the immigration status and entitlements of foreign nationals. They are both simpler to understand and are more convenient for foreign nationals living in the UK to use. The application process also enables the agency to check a person against both our records and police fingerprint records.

We have been rolling out biometric residence permits to different visa categories over the last 4 years. This means that applicants have been enrolling their biometric information (fingerprints and facial images) to apply for a biometric residence permit at the same time as making their application to stay in the UK. Some people will have applied to stay in the UK before there was a requirement to provide biometric information in their category, and will not have provided their biometric information. If these people are granted permission to stay on or after 1 December 2012, either at first consideration or after a successful appeal, they will need to apply for a biometric residence permit.

These measures are helping to combat illegal immigration, abuse of the immigration system and the misuse of public funds.

[AKDK]

I was looking at EEA2 and EEA4 forms on UKBA web-site - they havent updated them to say that biometrics are now required...

So that article definitely says that all family members of EEA are now required to give biometrics next time they apply for any residence permit?

[Jambo]

I was looking at EEA2 and EEA4 forms on UKBA web-site - they havent updated them to say that biometrics are now required...

So that article definitely says that all family members of EEA are now required to give biometrics next time they apply for any residence permit?

If they apply for Residence Permit, yes. However, family members of EEA national normally apply for a Residence Card which is a different thing (Residence Permit is application under the UK immigration rules).

See the discussion - BIOMETRICS/EEA RESIDENCE CARD.

[AKDK]

Thank you for your answer, that article really confused me, as i thought that biometrics for family permits were compulsory already, so there is no change to that category. And from reading it I understood that they referring to EEA2 and EEA4 applicants…. hmmmm

[Jambo]

Thank you for your answer, that article really confused me, as i thought that biometrics for family permits were compulsory already, so there is no change to that category. And from reading it I understood that they referring to EEA2 and EEA4 applicants…. hmmmm

Read this paragraph again:

We have been rolling out biometric residence permits to different visa categories over the last 4 years. This means that applicants have been enrolling their biometric information (fingerprints and facial images) to apply for a biometric residence permit at the same time as making their application to stay in the UK. Some people will have applied to stay in the UK before there was a requirement to provide biometric information in their category, and will not have provided their biometric information. If these people are granted permission to stay on or after 1 December 2012, either at first consideration or after a successful appeal, they will need to apply for a biometric residence permit.

[sheraz7]

The following procedure need to follow for assessing this news relevancy on ukba website:
1. VISIT THE UKBA WEBSITE HOME PAGE: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/
2. CLICK AT THE RIGHT HANDSIDE OPTION CALLED NEWS AND UPDATES
3. ON THIS PAGE AT MIDDLE OF THE PAGE YOU WILL SEE ANOTHER ICON CALLED AS NEWS FOR.
4. CLICK UNDER THIS ICON NEW FOR JUST CHOOSE THE EUROPEAN CITIZENS.
5. WHEN YOU CLICK ON EUROPEAN CITIZENS THEN IN RESULT YOU WILL SEE THE RELEVANT NEWS TO THIS SECTION AND VERY EASILY FIND THIS BIOMETRIC NEWS. THAT CLEARLY MEANS THAT IT RELATES TO NON-EEA NATIONALS.

AFTER DOING THIS SHARE THIS RESULT TOO.

[Jambo]

I'm aware that this piece of news was also tagged as relevant to the European section of the news. However, it was not tagged under the "applicants within the UK" but it was tagged under "applicants outside the UK". Does it mean it doesn't apply to applications within the UK? No. It just means whoever tagged this news didn't do a good job. The same as with the announcement of fees increase several months ago which can be found on the same news page. Not relevant to the (free) EEA applications but still part of the European news.

I still insist this is not relevant to applications under the EEA regulations. We will need to wait and see

[sheraz7]

Yes mate this is right that we should wait for its practical implementation because this news just came to surface recently and no one yet go through it and share its experience. But the funny thing is that if they implement it on this free type of application then it will cost them more and if they charge for that then they violate the EU law.

[sheraz7]

Jambo in your last post what i understand that you are saying that these ukba people are not doing their job good perhaps because of having low knowledge/expertise and you believe that you are saying right? Is that your mean. Correct us on this if you not mind please?

[AKDK]

i called them yesterday, the person i spoke to seemd more confused than i was when i first asked if biometrics are required for EEA2 he said yes. then i asked if he is sure about that and he started checking something and eventually said No.

[Jambo]

Jambo in your last post what i understand that you are saying that these ukba people are not doing their job good perhaps because of having low knowledge/expertise and you believe that you are saying right? Is that your mean. Correct us on this if you not mind please?

I'm just saying that whoever released this news on the website tagged it as relevant to the European category. This was probably by mistake. I don't think it is a matter of low knowledge/expertise. I do however argue that you should not take everything on the website as granted.

[jotter]

The notice states that people who need to apply for a biometric card will receive a letter when their documents are returned stating that this is a requirement and their options for how to obtain it. So, the proof in the pudding will be if we start getting reports of EEA2/4 applicants getting their RC or PR back with such letters. I'm optimistic we won't see this, but guess we won't have to wait long to find out.

[samsam1066]

Hi all someone told me that now fingerprints(biometric)is needed in eea2 applications.Want to know if this is correct

[toofan]

Its not confirmed yet from ukba for eea2 that at present they require bio metric or not but I read some where from summer 2014 they are planning to introduce bio metrics with eu route application too .to avoid people changing ids.
but my point is eu citizens and their family members are not under uk immigration control so even if they find out if someone applied visa under different id before still they have to decide application under eu law .

[toofan]

I have saved a document on my PC

it explains about from summer 2014 ukba wants to introduce biometrics in all categories including eu route.its pdf link is given below.



https://www.google.co.uk/#q=Immigration ... lause+4+10