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is uk mosque marrige acceptes by ukba

Post by khurramtelford » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:18 am

Hi everyone

I got marrige in italy where i took my local imam who profmed the nikha he had a marrige register which has our local mosque address here in uk on top. The imam also wrote is address and stamped it with his stamp the nikha nama its self is in english.

Now the questions

Will it be ok to apply a visa with that.?
Or will i have to do any thing to it.?
Do i have to register with local union council in pakistan now?

If any body can help i would be really great full.

Ps
My wife has a visa to live in itlay as her father dependents that why we having to apply for visa.

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Post by vinny » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:23 am

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Re: is uk mosque marrige acceptes by ukba

Post by asim72 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:05 pm

khurramtelford wrote:Hi everyone

I got marrige in italy where i took my local imam who profmed the nikha he had a marrige register which has our local mosque address here in uk on top. The imam also wrote is address and stamped it with his stamp the nikha nama its self is in english.

Now the questions

Will it be ok to apply a visa with that.?
Or will i have to do any thing to it.?
Do i have to register with local union council in pakistan now?

If any body can help i would be really great full.

Ps
My wife has a visa to live in itlay as her father dependents that why we having to apply for visa.
Your marriage in not valid in Italian law, hence not valid in UK law.
Best and easiest way is to do a civil marriage in Italy.

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Post by khurramtelford » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:46 am

Thanks Asim but one thing i dont understand its on the mosque rigister and got a stamp eswell. Normly nikha nama is accepted from pakistan this one is english.ease if you could help me little further
Many thanks.

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Post by asim72 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:19 pm

Normally or usually or mosque stamp or mosque imam or a church cleric or anyone else is not the issue.

The issue is what law regards as a marriage. In pakistan, they will only accept a Nikah if its done by a Qazi who is authorised. According to Islamic faith any anyone of standing can perform a Nikah, but Pakistan govt will not accept it. Even Saudi Arabia won't accept a Nikah in saudi arabia unless its done by an authorised person.

So, UK only accepts a marriage if performed by an authorised person in prescribed manner with witnesses. Even the building where the marriage takes place has to be authorised specially for marriage purposes. So how on earth an imam from UK can go around the world, and his nikah could be accepted?

Your nikah took place in Italy, and its not recognised in Italy, so no country in the world will recognise it, including any islamic country.

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Post by khurramtelford » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:29 pm

Thanks you very much.

How do find out if the mosque is authorised to do the nikha.

Can i get this nikha nama register in union concil in pakistan.

Mant thanks

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Post by asim72 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:33 pm

Also Pakistanis and Pakistani imams are reckless and irresponsible.

How on earth an Imam travels to Italy and performs a Nikah and gives a certificate?
Why do things which are not valid under the law of the country?
Why perform a Nikah which won't be valid under any country's law?

Any mosque where I live will never perform a Nikah unless they have seen and established identities and status of the parties, and they do not do a Nikah until the marriage is first registered at register office.

But even here Pakistani mosque's are an exception. They will perform Nikah of any Tom Dick and Harry. In theory, I could go to them with a woman, and give whatever name and DOB and address and other details and they would marry me to the woman without checking anything.

The whole thing is a big joke.

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Post by asim72 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:37 pm

khurramtelford wrote:Thanks you very much.

How do find out if the mosque is authorised to do the nikha.

Can i get this nikha nama register in union concil in pakistan.

Mant thanks
I think you did not understand a thing. Union council stamp or anything wont help. You have to either marry her under Italian law in Italy, or under UK law in UK, or Saudi Arabian law in Saudi Arabia. In UK you have to contact your local register office and they will tell you how you can do a proper legal marriage. Don't go around knocking on a mosque's door.

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Post by khurramtelford » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:37 pm

Thanks again now its making me some sense.

So in islamic point of view my nikha should be ok and you saying that i should register the marrige with ragister office.
Once again many thanks.

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Post by khurramtelford » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:39 pm

Thanks again now its making me some sense.

So in islamic point of view my nikha should be ok and you saying that i should register the marrige with ragister office.
Once again many thanks.

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Post by asim72 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:42 pm

khurramtelford wrote:Thanks again now its making me some sense.

So in islamic point of view my nikha should be ok and you saying that i should register the marrige with ragister office.
Once again many thanks.
Yes, you have understood it now. Religion is a matter between you and your faith. Law of the land is a matter between you and the country you live in.

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Post by khurramtelford » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:45 pm

Many thanks for your help. I never had to do any rhings like this before.

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