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EEA3 & EEA4 Applications employment

Post by nidaulhaque » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:48 am

I sent eea3 application this month with all the documents including my exercising treaty rights for past 5 years, which already complected this month.

now here is my questions.

1. if i leave my employment end of this month, will this effect my eea3 application or my British citizen application?

2. my spouse (non eea) needs to apply eea4 next year will it be problem if i stop working now? and will this effect his eea4 and British citizen application?

3. and finally my spouse mother and father also got residence card as a family member of eea national (on my basis) will this effect their eea4 and British citizen application??

let me know if you need more info.

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Post by nidaulhaque » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:19 pm

can you please reply to this post specially Obie, Directive/2004/38/EC or vinny need your expect advice

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Post by nidaulhaque » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:48 pm

nidaulhaque wrote:can you please reply to this post specially Obie, Directive/2004/38/EC or vinny need your expect advice
SORRY MEAN EXPERT ADVICE

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Post by nidaulhaque » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:33 pm

Can someone reply to above post plz

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Re: EEA3 Application employment

Post by boloney » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:09 pm

nidaulhaque wrote:
1. if i leave my employment end of this month, will this effect my eea3 application or my British citizen application?

2. my spouse (non eea) needs to apply eea4 next year will it be problem if i stop working now? and will this effect his eea4 and British citizen application?

3. and finally my spouse mother and father also got residence card as a family member of eea national (on my basis) will this effect their eea4 and British citizen application??

let me know if you need more info.
1. no
2. your spouse will have to show that you was exercising treaty rights in the UK while she was here. so if she will complete 5 years next year you will have to show that you was exercising treaty rights to she complete 5 years residence. (I don`t think PR will cover unemployment) but if you wanna leave your current employer and start new job then there will be no problem.
3.as above

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Re: EEA3 Application employment

Post by nidaulhaque » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:22 pm

boloney wrote:
nidaulhaque wrote:
1. if i leave my employment end of this month, will this effect my eea3 application or my British citizen application?

2. my spouse (non eea) needs to apply eea4 next year will it be problem if i stop working now? and will this effect his eea4 and British citizen application?

3. and finally my spouse mother and father also got residence card as a family member of eea national (on my basis) will this effect their eea4 and British citizen application??

let me know if you need more info.
1. no
2. your spouse will have to show that you was exercising treaty rights in the UK while she was here. so if she will complete 5 years next year you will have to show that you was exercising treaty rights to she complete 5 years residence. (I don`t think PR will cover unemployment) but if you wanna leave your current employer and start new job then there will be no problem.
3.as above
No you got it wrong, plz read again my main post, I eea national already completed 5 years as qualified person and already sent my eea3 application and now asking if I leave job what will be happen with non eea family member???

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Re: EEA3 Application employment

Post by Jambo » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:09 am

nidaulhaque wrote:1. if i leave my employment end of this month, will this effect my eea3 application or my British citizen application?
No. Once you have completed the 5 years, you have obtained the PR automatically. The HO just confirms that by issuing the PR card.
2. my spouse (non eea) needs to apply eea4 next year will it be problem if i stop working now? and will this effect his eea4 and British citizen application?
No problem. No affect.
3. and finally my spouse mother and father also got residence card as a family member of eea national (on my basis) will this effect their eea4 and British citizen application??
No.

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Post by nidaulhaque » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:52 am

Thanks again for fast reply,

another question, my husband's father and mother also got residence card (family member of eea national) on my basics so when they apply for pr do they need to prove they were my dependent? like financially?

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Post by nidaulhaque » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:14 pm

nidaulhaque wrote:Thanks again for fast reply,

another question, my husband's father and mother also got residence card (family member of eea national) on my basics so when they apply for pr do they need to prove they were my dependent? like financially?
@jambo

can you please put some light on the above statment

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Post by nidaulhaque » Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:39 pm

nidaulhaque wrote:Thanks again for fast reply,

another question, my husband's father and mother also got residence card (family member of eea national) on my basics so when they apply for pr do they need to prove they were my dependent? like financially?
Still waiting for reply about above questions, any1????

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Post by Jambo » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:27 pm

nidaulhaque wrote:Thanks again for fast reply,

another question, my husband's father and mother also got residence card (family member of eea national) on my basics so when they apply for pr do they need to prove they were my dependent? like financially?
Yes. Like you did for the RC.

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Post by nidaulhaque » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:14 pm

Jambo wrote:
nidaulhaque wrote:Thanks again for fast reply,

another question, my husband's father and mother also got residence card (family member of eea national) on my basics so when they apply for pr do they need to prove they were my dependent? like financially?
Yes. Like you did for the RC.
Thanks jambo for your reply, for rc I did not sent anything to prove they were financially dependant on me, just sent proof of address ( nhs letters) that they living at same address. So will they ask to prove how I was financially support them? Can I say through cash?

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Post by Jambo » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:36 am

Dependant doesn't necessary mean financially although this is one that is relatively easy to prove. Cash payments is not easy to prove.

Do they still live with you? Do you pay for their costs or do they have independent life living and working somewhere else?

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Post by Obie » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:48 am

Jambo wrote:Dependant doesn't necessary mean financially
For the purpose of the EEA regulations, it does mean financially dependancy.

The person needing the support from the EEA national to meet their essential needs.

However it appears the application was on the basis of membership of the same household, and provided that condition continue to be met, they may be alright.
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Post by Jambo » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:04 am

Wouldn't 8(3) considered dependency?

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Post by Obie » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:27 am

Will it is a not classified as dependancy, it state "serious health condition that strictly require the care of the EEA national". That is a very high threshold, which i am not sure the OP or yourself was referring to on your respective posts. It is alternative to dependency or members of the household in Article 3(2) and also regulation 8(2) and 8+3).

The court has defined dependancy in Lebon, Jia and it simply means providing material support to meet ones essential needs.
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Post by nidaulhaque » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:40 am

Thanks for your interest about this matter. They always living with me at same address they both never worked. From last one year they getting pension credit, will this be problem?

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Post by nidaulhaque » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:53 am

on the regulation 2006 it does not say about father and mother of eea or non eea member. but if you visit HO website this link http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucit ... sibilites/

it says
Your family
If you have a right to live the in the UK, your family may join you here. Your family is defined as:

your spouse (husband or wife) or civil partner;
any children or grandchildren of you, your spouse or your civil partner who are under 21 years of age or who are dependent on you; and
the parents or grandparents of you, your spouse or your civil partner.

so does they don't have automatic rights as they not extended family member?
Plus pension credit will it be problem?

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Post by nidaulhaque » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:31 pm

can someone reply to this plz

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Post by nidaulhaque » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:22 pm

i believe no one here to reply above post??

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Post by frei » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:38 pm

Extended family members do not have automatic right of residence.

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Post by Jambo » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:46 pm

nidaulhaque wrote:on the regulation 2006 it does not say about father and mother of eea or non eea member.
Yes it does. See 7(1)(c).

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Post by nidaulhaque » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:40 pm

frei wrote:Extended family members do not have automatic right of residence.
well father in law and mother in law does not comes under extended family member, is it right jambo?

and another question in section 8,2 it says ""the person satisfied the condition in paragraph (a), has joined the EEA national in the United Kingdom and continues to be dependent upon him or to be a member of his household."""

so it does say either dependent upon him or member of same household.

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Post by frei » Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:07 am

Family members of EU citizens have automatic right of residence as set out in article 2 (2) Other family members do not.

The parents of your spouse are your own family member. They have automatic right of residence.

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Post by nidaulhaque » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:25 pm

frei wrote:Family members of EU citizens have automatic right of residence as set out in article 2 (2) Other family members do not.

The parents of your spouse are your own family member. They have automatic right of residence.
ok, yes so they have automatic rights like spouse of eea, so pension credit can effect their application for pr? or i have to show that they are dependable on me (financially)

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