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EEA3 document clarification -payslips

Post by poppets » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:28 pm

Hi

I'm a German citizen who has lived in the UK for over 10 years.

I want to apply for the permanent residence letter so I can apply for full British residency.


I've got all the paper work needed ( I think) but need to know if UKBA need a payslip for every month for 5 years ?

I have at least one for every year for the last 5 years up to this year.

All it says on their website is that they need wage slips etc for 5 years of continous employment. I interpret that as one for every year for the last 5 years. BUT THEY ARENT CLEAR.

Just wish they could be a bit more clearer when stating what they need.

Thanks : :D

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Post by sheraz7 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:48 pm

EEA national can apply for permanent residence after continuously excercising its treaty rights for 5 years. You do not need to send the payslips of each month of 5 years rather just only send 5 years five P60s that should be enough.
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Post by poppets » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:54 pm

I dont have 5 years worth of p60's...

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Post by boloney » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:59 pm

poppets wrote:I dont have 5 years worth of p60's...
when I was applying I did send 5 years worth of weekly payslips, so about 250 payslips. They also covered my proofof address. There was no complain from them and my pr was done in about 2-3 months.

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Post by Jambo » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:10 pm

Are you still with the same employer? A letter confirming your employment during the five years is also acceptable (instead of payslips).

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Post by poppets » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:12 pm

I'm not with the same employer but did get a reference so I would assume that would suffice?

I have a new employer so have payslips from them.

I have at least one payslip from each year since 2008 so hop thats enough.

Hope thats enough but will ring the UKBA next week to clarify

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Post by Jambo » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:07 pm

If the reference states your name, NI number and start and end date of employment, that should be enough. You can also get an employment history from HMRC which states your employers and tax paid. Just call HMRC. They usually post it within 2-3 days.

A single payslip by itself to cover a whole year is not enough. However, a reference would do the job.

Don't count too much on the HO enquiries line to help you...

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Post by Obie » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:12 pm

If applying for British Citizenship is your primary intention, then you could proceed with doing so, without the confirmation from the HO of your PR status.

Once you receive the confirmation from inland revenue of your employment history, and provided you have passed the life in the UK test, and you are someone of good character, and are aware of any cnsequence of the loss of your status as Union Citizen, then you could apply directly.
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Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:58 pm

Another point to note is that a citizenship application is not free, whereas PR confirmation (currently) is. It might be a rather risk free method of confirming that you have indeed achieved PR.

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Post by Obie » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:25 pm

You are technically right, but there is the time factor, and ultimately the OP will have to pay these fee and show all these evidence for the naturalisation application again, if he does not want to wait a year after the PR was issued before making an application.

The best solution, is to get all these evidence to the Citizen checking service. They will not accept an application if a person does not meet all the criteria, and i saw a statistic that 90% or more of application made via the CCS are successful.

So i believe in those circumstance, and given the fact, the OP would have had to use the CCS anyway, there is no loss, financially or time wise.

But it is a decision, he, and only he, will have to make i believe.

I personally believe the EEA3 is a needless administrative burden, which an EEA citizen dont really need, and can bypass.

I cannot say so in regards to the EEA 4.

This is my personal opinion, and i will not compel anyone to follow it.
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Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:41 am

The citizenship checking service is a good idea. Given the cost of fee, I would not want to risk rejection on a technicality.

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Post by Obie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:22 pm

Which cost of fee are you envisaging. provided the OP is of good character, and the CSC has checked his application and confirmed he meets all the requirement. Then there is almost non-existent possibility of his Naturalisation application being rejected, on grounds that he does not meet the 5 years treaty rights requirement.
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Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:27 pm

I was agreeing that utilising the checking service is a good idea. Not using it and making an error in application, could result in a refusal plus fee loss.

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Post by Obie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:31 pm

I apologise for misreading your post. I thought you were suggesting, that notwithstanding the CCS, he still stand the possibility of having his application rejected, due to oversights.
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