What and how?

[TamerQtaish]

My name is Tamer, I am a German citizen, spent the last almost decade living at Jordan (middle east),
It ain't all bad, actually I met the love of my life there, maybe it was our shared love to music and gaming,
The face that she was different and had a childhood in the states, I don't know exactly, but everything pulled us together!

I will start with the details of how when and why to help anyone answering have the best answer, so here it is:
Now we have been together as friends for many years, but 2 years ago we became a couple, I should had gone for her way before I did, but I am an idiot,
Although she was playing hard to get cause she fell for me first and I didn't go for it at the beginning, still after a couple of dates we were hooked!
Now the bad side of this story, she has a very CRAZY abusive family, I have a picture of the last time her brother beat her up on my cell phone and when ever I get tired I just look at it and promise my self to give her the life she deserves.

Anyway 5 months ago, with the abuse being just crazy we started working on getting her out of Jordan,
with her dad not approving of me for million reasons and just to show you crazy, her dad has a Jordanian passport but he wont ever give his daughter to a none originally Palestinian person!
And I know cause although I am not in those crazy traditions I would had gone for it just to be with her and be able of giving her a good life, I had a very good life at Jordan, very high salary, a nice apartment with many bedrooms, so why not,
But hopeless, So it worked! She left to the states under a five year visit visa in the hopes of me getting there to put her to finish university which I am still gonna do she already lost years on it and only one year left! Shame to lose that and I want her to be a strong women no matter what!

For 2 months I kept looking for a job in the states, but I failed, until my mum suggested me aiming towards Europe and then getting her here and being together here,
Sounded like a plan, within a week found a good paying job, 3 weeks later I was here!

Now the final step! Getting her here, getting married and happily ever after

Now I looked at fiance Visa, or marriage visa, it seems doable but some stuff I am not sure about such as this document it seems I have to fill and send, but send where?
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... p-form.pdf

Others told me I should use a family permit, which sounds perfect but with my apartment being in my name back at Jordan and our relationship being mostly a secret, only friends new and my own family, how would that be fully proven.

Now I tried to approach legal agencies, but they asked for money I don't have even for advice, tried paying for the basic advice thing and only got more questions than answers!
She still has another 5 months on her visa in the states, I would prefare if she never has to go back to Jordan ever again with her crazy family there, She already ran from them and its not like people there don't kill their daughters!

Any help would be appreciated,
Thanks for reading and sorry for the long post

[vinny]

Topic moved from Immigration for family members.

[Obie]

You said you became a couple 2 years ago, but did you live together in a relationship akin to marriage, as man and wife. If you did, can you proof of joint cohabitation.

If you can show you lived together in a durable relationship, then you may be able to secure an EEA family permit for her, but this does not seem to be the case.

Is she prepared to get married to you, without her parents approval?

She may be able to secure fiance visa, but you must demonstrate tthat you intend to get married and you meet the financial and maintenance requirements. Can yoi show this?.

I really do sympathise with your plight and hope things do work out. I hope the power of true love will transcend all other opposing forces.

As you described her, she seem like she has a clear view of life, due to her childhood western exposure. I am sure she will have an informed view of what she wants in life and how she will acquire it.

[TamerQtaish]

Thanks Obie for your reply,
First of all yes its hard to prove it paper work wise to get a family permit the best chance we have is to get a fiance visa, I have considered that.

I can prove financially that I can support her, actually moving to my own apartment today and get a salary double as required....

We would had started with it already but once we go to the form online
http://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/applynow.aspx
We really can't find which options to select after filling the basic info, like visa type, purpose etc... It doesn't simply say fiance visa

Also I figured out I have to fill this Sponsorship undertaking form, but after I did, I am not sure where or to whom to send it! (link in the original topic)

I figured we try this fiance visa, if it doesn't work out, I will have enough to go there marry here and get back then work on a wife visa, at the end the idea behind a fiance visa is to make sure two people will marry.. And if we have one thing being sure in all of this, is that we really do want to get married and grow old together...


Thank you so much for your replies already

[Obie]

Well you have to be earning 18600 in the 6 months preceding the application. Have you?

I believe you should ignore the UK immigration route and focus on the EU law option, as I very much doubt you will meet those stringent rules now, notwithstanding the fact that you have now secured a permanent job.

You just need to gather evidence showing you are in a stable relationship, rather than boyfriend and girlfriend relationship.

[TamerQtaish]

As I understood they wanted me to prove that I earn that much, not to actually have earned it, I only have been here 2 and a half months lol.

Well Yes I thought of that, but we were together at Jordan so it will be hard to prove any legal paper work of us living together there for any amount of time!

I always could fly to the US and marry her there but I would have to wait another month or two for that option... I don't know what is the best way to go

[Obie]

These are very big steps you are taking. You need to discuss it with this lady to see what her views are on them. Marriage may be a big step, but I believe it is more likely to succeed. But that decision may be very decision for you to make than her.
She will have to face being showned by her family forever. However vile they are, the prosepect of her not seeing them again may take a bit of time to digest.