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settlement route Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) visas

Post by nedxx » Tue May 14, 2013 5:17 pm

Hi everybody,

I have a quick question regarding Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) visas. Would anyone please let me know that during the whole five years, how many employees should I have and for how long so that I become eligible to apply for settlement in UK?

Many thanks.

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Re: settlement route Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) visas

Post by HeretoHelp » Tue May 14, 2013 5:21 pm

nedxx wrote:Hi everybody,

I have a quick question regarding Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) visas. Would anyone please let me know that during the whole five years, how many employees should I have and for how long so that I become eligible to apply for settlement in UK?

Many thanks.
How about reading the guidance? It will take just few mins. :D

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Post by ram80 » Tue May 14, 2013 5:25 pm

This post does not contain legal advice.

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Re: settlement route Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) visas

Post by monolyte » Tue May 14, 2013 5:25 pm

HeretoHelp wrote:
nedxx wrote:Hi everybody,

I have a quick question regarding Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) visas. Would anyone please let me know that during the whole five years, how many employees should I have and for how long so that I become eligible to apply for settlement in UK?

Many thanks.
How about reading the guidance? It will take just few mins. :D
VERY GOOD ANSWER :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by nedxx » Tue May 14, 2013 11:53 pm

Thanks, But I sure have read the guidance:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

I am a bit confuse about this part:

(a) established a new UK business or businesses that has or have
created the equivalent of at least 2 new full time jobs for persons settled
in the UK, or
(b) taken over or invested in an existing UK business or businesses and
his services or investment have resulted in a net increase in the
employment provided by the business or businesses for persons settled
in the UK by creating the equivalent of at least 2 new full time jobs
Where the applicant's last grant of entry clearance or leave to enter or
remain was as a Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) Migrant, the jobs must have
existed for at least 12 months of the period for which the previous leave
was granted.

Can you clarify this? I am just asking for help, if you don't want to help then just ignore my question, otherwise I know I should read the guidance!

At first, you get a 3-year visa, and during that time you should employ 2 full time employees for 12 months. After that you can renew the visa for another 2 years. Does this part "Where the applicant's last grant of entry clearance or leave to enter or
remain was as a Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) Migrant, the jobs must have
existed for at least 12 months of the period for which the previous leave
was granted."

means in a time I apply for settlements (after second renewal) in overall I would have employed 2 employees for 24 months in whole period of five years?

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Post by rahulsingh1 » Wed May 15, 2013 9:35 am

you got it right yourself.

just 2 jobs in first 3years. Thats it for renewal and also for ILR(second renewal).

When applying for ILR, you just have to show the same documentation of employees that you showed during first renewal.

You have no obligation to employ anyone after first renewal.




nedxx wrote:Thanks, But I sure have read the guidance:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

I am a bit confuse about this part:

(a) established a new UK business or businesses that has or have
created the equivalent of at least 2 new full time jobs for persons settled
in the UK, or
(b) taken over or invested in an existing UK business or businesses and
his services or investment have resulted in a net increase in the
employment provided by the business or businesses for persons settled
in the UK by creating the equivalent of at least 2 new full time jobs
Where the applicant's last grant of entry clearance or leave to enter or
remain was as a Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) Migrant, the jobs must have
existed for at least 12 months of the period for which the previous leave
was granted.

Can you clarify this? I am just asking for help, if you don't want to help then just ignore my question, otherwise I know I should read the guidance!

At first, you get a 3-year visa, and during that time you should employ 2 full time employees for 12 months. After that you can renew the visa for another 2 years. Does this part "Where the applicant's last grant of entry clearance or leave to enter or
remain was as a Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) Migrant, the jobs must have
existed for at least 12 months of the period for which the previous leave
was granted."

means in a time I apply for settlements (after second renewal) in overall I would have employed 2 employees for 24 months in whole period of five years?

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Post by maverick_76 » Wed May 15, 2013 11:45 am

rahulsingh1 wrote:you got it right yourself.

just 2 jobs in first 3years. Thats it for renewal and also for ILR(second renewal).

When applying for ILR, you just have to show the same documentation of employees that you showed during first renewal.

You have no obligation to employ anyone after first renewal.
Hi Rahul,

Are you sure about this? If this was the case why would they want to know about Job creation in Set(O) form. Please check page 33 of SET(O) form http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... o04091.pdf

I myself am bit confused about this and think the jobs should exist in last 12 months. Please read the following point again -
'Where the applicant's last grant of entry clearance or leave to enter or
remain was as a Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) Migrant, the jobs must have
existed for at least 12 months of the period for which the previous leave
was granted.'

Here previous leave was granted as extension to Entrepreneur visa and it clearly says Jobs should exist for the last 12 months of that period.
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Post by my_friend » Wed May 15, 2013 12:13 pm

nedxx wrote:Thanks, But I sure have read the guidance:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

I am a bit confuse about this part:

(a) established a new UK business or businesses that has or have
created the equivalent of at least 2 new full time jobs for persons settled
in the UK, or
(b) taken over or invested in an existing UK business or businesses and
his services or investment have resulted in a net increase in the
employment provided by the business or businesses for persons settled
in the UK by creating the equivalent of at least 2 new full time jobs
Where the applicant's last grant of entry clearance or leave to enter or
remain was as a Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) Migrant, the jobs must have
existed for at least 12 months of the period for which the previous leave
was granted.

Can you clarify this? I am just asking for help, if you don't want to help then just ignore my question, otherwise I know I should read the guidance!

At first, you get a 3-year visa, and during that time you should employ 2 full time employees for 12 months. After that you can renew the visa for another 2 years. Does this part "Where the applicant's last grant of entry clearance or leave to enter or
remain was as a Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) Migrant, the jobs must have
existed for at least 12 months of the period for which the previous leave
was granted."

means in a time I apply for settlements (after second renewal) in overall I would have employed 2 employees for 24 months in whole period of five years?

this is a very good question...i am not sure either...please expert advise needed on this...

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Post by nedxx » Wed May 15, 2013 4:15 pm

One expert answered me with this (please note I have no idea if that's reliable or not):

"You need to show that you have employed the equivalent of 2 full time workers for a 12 month period within your last period of leave. You can't rely on the workers that had in the first 3 years."

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Post by rahulsingh1 » Wed May 15, 2013 4:25 pm

Maverick76-

Please see page 33 of the SET 0 form, which you have mentioned below.
here is the text from that:
--------------------------------------
JOB creATIOn
B. You have established a new UK business or businesses or taken over or invested in an existing
UK business or businesses and created at least two full time equivalent posts (20 points available)
During your period of leave as an Entrepreneur, you must have either established a new business or
businesses in the UK, or have taken over or invested in an existing UK business or businesses.
You must also have created an aggregate of at least 2 new full time posts for 2 people for at least 12
months each across your business.
--------------------------------------------

It only states you should have created 2 years equivalent of jobs in your stay as an entrepreneur. (Not in your last 2 years, but in your whole stay of 5 years).


Again, please read carefully as it seems you have read the word 'Least' as 'Last'. They are different. The jobs should have existed for 'atleast' 12 months ! not in the last 12 months.

Please do not confuse people here, read the guidance carefully again.
Honest advice- if you have problem in attention to detail, make someone else read it, or if you have problem with English, make someone explain each paragraph to you. Sorry for being blunt. But only for your good.

Hope this helps.


maverick_76 wrote:
rahulsingh1 wrote:you got it right yourself.

just 2 jobs in first 3years. Thats it for renewal and also for ILR(second renewal).

When applying for ILR, you just have to show the same documentation of employees that you showed during first renewal.

You have no obligation to employ anyone after first renewal.
Hi Rahul,

Are you sure about this? If this was the case why would they want to know about Job creation in Set(O) form. Please check page 33 of SET(O) form http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... o04091.pdf

I myself am bit confused about this and think the jobs should exist in last 12 months. Please read the following point again -
'Where the applicant's last grant of entry clearance or leave to enter or
remain was as a Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) Migrant, the jobs must have
existed for at least 12 months of the period for which the previous leave
was granted.'

Here previous leave was granted as extension to Entrepreneur visa and it clearly says Jobs should exist for the last 12 months of that period.

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Post by maverick_76 » Tue May 21, 2013 6:39 am

Rahulsingh1 and all-
I confirmed from a consultant and he also said what Rahul has said. I can confirm that we just need to show jobs only at the time of extension and not at the time of ILR. Thank you Rahul!
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Post by rahulsingh1 » Tue May 21, 2013 12:40 pm

Thanks Maverick- Good that you got it cleared.

The reality is everything is in the Guidance, You need to read it again and again till you are clear and you will not need the help of any agent unless UKBA does something funny with your app, which they are capable of.

Who was the consultant though ? Can you share so all of the people can benefit...

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Post by maverick_76 » Tue May 21, 2013 5:48 pm

Rahul - don't want to advertise consultants name here, I have sent you a pm.
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