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please advise.

Post by pageup » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:48 am

Some of the answers I and my wife gave mismatched though not complelty.
The question was when the relationship started .. .. .. please give your views .
Though my barrister say in almost all cases this sort of thing happen
Please share your views. Very very worried. My family, and wife. Everything genuine.

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please reply.

Post by pageup » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:03 pm

Please people reply.regarding my situation.

Hearing was 28 June. No reply so far . I mean decsuin.

marriage genuine. Marrge done English law. EU wife working. ..

But very concerned with the outcome of hearing.

Ukforever, gurei, please reply.

Every one on this forum is great.

Will the judge also look that I have been in UK fir 11 years...

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please do reply. uk forever.

Post by pageup » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:49 pm

Hello.

Please do reply. My hareaing wad at Hatton cross on 28 June... Please gurie do reply.. What is likely to happen...

Very very wortied :oops:

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still wating.

Post by pageup » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:39 am

Still waiting for outcome of appeal heard on 28 June.

Marriage regstested under English law.. Now what are the chances judge can refuse my application

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APPEAL DISMISSED.

Post by pageup » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:13 pm

Ukforever, gure please advise me. Now I will begin higher court. Please advise

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Re: APPEAL DISMISSED.

Post by wiggsy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:27 pm

pageup wrote:Ukforever, gure please advise me. Now I will begin higher court. Please advise
You neeed to wait for judge to respond...

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please asvise.

Post by pageup » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:47 pm

My marriage register under English law. Wife working, paying taxes. Every thing genuine. Culture, religin of me my wife same... But the judge refused application.

How does the uper tribunal process work, court process.

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plesse advise gure, ukforever.

Post by pageup » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:58 am

First tied triubanal refused my appeal.

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Post by Greenie » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:38 am

What are the judge's reasons for dismissing the appeal?

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marriage of convince judge say.

Post by pageup » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:10 am

Because some of the answers mismatched, she dismissed the appeal under regulation 26 of the EEA REGULATIONS

Appeal dismissed under article 8.

But my marriage genuine, marriage registered under English law. Wife EU citrzen working. Every thing up to standard... She still refused it.

Have been in UK for 11 years from the age of 13... She said go back to pakistain, speak to your family via technology. Skype.

Your wife can come and visit you there....

What do you make of judge decsion.

I am going to uper tribunal what are the chance for success. a. Aapplied for resident card in April 2012. So nearly 14 months now.... What are the chanced to succede via durable patnet route. Please advise

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Post by Obie » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:37 am

Don't know why the judge did not consider article 8. You seem to have a strong Article 8 claim.

You have been here nearly half of your life, came in as a teenager, no criminal conviction, in a durable relationship.

These are all very strong factors.

Rushing into a marriage during an appeal could raise suspicion.

However you should appeal to the Upper Tribunal, if the decision, but this will incur further cost.

Now that the court has said the marriage is one of convenience, it will be difficult to now make a application, without first challenging that credibility finding. Also now that they claim marriage of convenience, it makes an article 8 case a little less stronger, as they will claim you are seeking to circumvent immigration control, and this will affect the proportionality balance.
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any orher option.

Post by pageup » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:35 am

I know about the cost. For upet tribunal.

But what option I have left now. Please asvise

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please advise me.

Post by pageup » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:00 am

People please advise me.

What is the best soultuon for me.

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jonathon martin.

Post by pageup » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:19 pm

The above barrister, part time judge doing my case.... For uper tribunal. What are the chances. What do people think of him

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please advise. gure, ukforever

Post by pageup » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:05 pm

My application refused in first tier tribunal. Now I am going to uper tribunal. How does the process work. Please advise.

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Post by wiggsy » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:42 am

see: http://www.justice.gov.uk/tribunals/imm ... er/appeals

guidance notes: http://hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/c ... de-eng.pdf


When did you get "SERVED" the notice... you only have five days... FAX the form in today!

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please advise.

Post by pageup » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:49 pm

What are the chance generally for the success st uper tribunal. .. I have barrister who is also judge. Does this sort of thing make difference

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ukforever.

Post by pageup » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:34 pm

Please advise me, share your views

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Post by Obie » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:06 pm

pageup wrote:What are the chance generally for the success st uper tribunal. .. I have barrister who is also judge. Does this sort of thing make difference
This makes absolutely no difference. The question is whether the Judge made an error of law in his/her approach to your application.

If the inconsistency in your evidence was such that , it will be inconceivable for any judge to accept that you are a genuine couple, then your case is a bit tricky.

If it was minor, then you may be entitled to a right to appeal.

You just have to wait an see what the Upper Tribunal decides.

If you don't succeed, this will be the end of the journey, except you can show the second appeals test is met, you will not be able to Judicial Review the Upper Tribunal decision, if they refuse you permission.
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explain in simple words please.

Post by pageup » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:39 pm

Explain to me in easy way. My marriage genuine under English law.

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please advise.

Post by pageup » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:46 pm

Please share your experince of uper tribunal

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Post by Obie » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:54 pm

Your marriage may be valid under English Law, but you need to also show it is genuine, and not marriage of convenience.

Simply holding a valid marriage certificate is not enough.

You need to wait for the decision on permission to appeal. No one can tell you about this. It is unique to an individual case.

Only thing is, things are much faster at Field house these days and slow at the first tier tribunal.
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what can happen now???

Post by pageup » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:04 pm

We appeals to go to uper tribunal, waiting for decsion. Very worried. My marriage is genuine... Any tips. .[/list]

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Re: what can happen now???

Post by askmeplz82 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:16 pm

pageup wrote:We appeals to go to uper tribunal, waiting for decsion. Very worried. My marriage is genuine... Any tips. .[/list]
The problem you have is the judge is not satisfied about your marriage.

They thinking it's a marriage of convenience or sham marriage. Can you prove that it was genuine relationship ? If you can prove that then you will lucky

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Re: what can happen now???

Post by Obie » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:34 pm

pageup wrote:We appeals to go to uper tribunal, waiting for decsion. Very worried. My marriage is genuine... Any tips. .[/list]
There are no tips unfortunately, not that it will have any effect anyway, as your file will be before the judge.

If you can deal with inconsistencies in your evidence, which led the judge to conclude your marriage is one of convenience, then you have a decent change of getting permission and winning your appeal.

At this present time, only if there is an arguable error in law, will the judge grant permission for you to appeal, and only if there is an actual error of law, will you have the right to proceed with s full appeal.
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