ESC

Click the "allow" button if you want to receive important news and updates from immigrationboards.com


Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

Welcome to immigrationboards.com!

Login Register Do not show

Refusal of LTR on criminality (suitability reasons).

Family member & Ancestry immigration; don't post other immigration categories, please!
Marriage | Unmarried Partners | Fiancé | Ancestry

Moderators: Casa, John, ChetanOjha, archigabe, CR001, push, JAJ, ca.funke, Amber, zimba, vinny, Obie, EUsmileWEallsmile, batleykhan, meself2, geriatrix, Administrator

Locked
cameron1
Newly Registered
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:08 am

Refusal of LTR on criminality (suitability reasons).

Post by cameron1 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:33 pm

I have been refused leave to remain (LTR) on basis of family life in the uk because i have alleged fallen for refusal under section S-LTR: Suitability leave to remain.

I have a conviction for perverting course of justice/common assault in 2009, and another common assault offense in 2011. I was fined and order to complete community service on both occasions without prison/custodial sentences. I completed the community service,drink therapy sessions (they were all alcohol-related) and paid the fines.

In the exact wording of the caseworker 'to qualify under appendix FM, you must meet all of the suitability criteria, due to your persistent offending and the nature of your offenses you fall for refusal under S-LTRP 1.5 of the immigration law'. The caseworker admits that i have genuine and subsisting parental relationship with my son and family, but he based his refusal solely on the suitability criteria of the new immigration law. Paragraph 322(1C) - I assume, because he citied the fact that it is a mandatory requirement

I was not given an appeal right

Also the caseworker mentioned the following grounds for refusal;

Paragraph D-LTRP 1.3 with reference to paragraph R-LTRP1.1(D)
Paragraph D-LTRPT 1.3 with reference to paragraph R-LTRPT1.1(D)
Paragraph 276 CE with reference to paragraph 276ADE (iii)-(vi) of HC 395 (as amended).

I need help to decide maybe i should go for JR-judicial review (because a solicitor reckon my offenses were not grievous to outweigh my right to family life) , or return to my country to apply!!! .. If i return to my country to apply, the same rule applies. If you have offended you might not be allowed back in, even though you weren't sent to prison S-EC 2.5 (b)(ii) and 320 (18B)(b).

PLEASE HELP, I NEED GOOD ADVICE

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:41 pm

A non custodial conviction is a general grounds (mandatory) for refusal for 24 months, when in 2011 were you convicted? I believe 322(1C) mandatory refusals should be restricted in use to ILR applications. If you're applying for limited leave to remain then the caseworker should have given adequate consideration to the statutory duty to children, under section 55 of the Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Act 2009. I think your solicitor should proceed to reconsideration/PAP.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

cameron1
Newly Registered
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:08 am

Post by cameron1 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:52 pm

To be honest, it will certainly be within the 24months before my application.

I applied in June 2012, just before the new rule. I was convicted of common assault in Nov 2011.

I only got response from the home office this week, September 2013 ...

Does that count?

Whats the way forward??

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:54 pm

Prior to December 2012 the rules were different. Were you applying for flr(o) or flr(m)? The fact there are two counts for assault doesn't help.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

cameron1
Newly Registered
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:08 am

Post by cameron1 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:02 pm

FLR (M) .... Discretionary leave to remain as spouse of a British citizen.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:47 pm

FLR(O) is for DLR. Was this your first application for Article 8 leave or an extension?
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

cameron1
Newly Registered
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:08 am

Post by cameron1 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:54 pm

It is my first application on the article 8 (family and private life route) ... I was on Tier 4 student in the past.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:59 pm

Perhaps a reconsideration request - child's best interest, your convictions were non-custodial, it has been x number of months since your last conviction and that 322(1C) should only be a mandatory refusal for ILR cases.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

cameron1
Newly Registered
Posts: 9
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:08 am

Post by cameron1 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:12 pm

Reconsideration is what im thinking about too .. I am not totally happy with the service of my current representative. Can you recommend anyone please?

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17506
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:24 pm

**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

Obie
Moderator
Posts: 15163
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:06 am
Location: UK/Ireland
Ireland

Post by Obie » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:43 am

Difficult to see a justification for that refusal when your application seem to pre date the rule change. Utterly rubbish.
Smooth seas do not make skilful sailors

Locked