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verbina wrote:@nilemarquesBelieve2013 wrote:I am so sorry to hear about you refusal Nile, pls do share with us the reasons when you get home. It's good to see you have a fighting spiritnilemarques wrote:Hi guys, hope I find you well this evening!! It's with great sadness but with hope that I inform you that the long awaited package from the HO arrived this morning bearing the news that I wasn't hoping for! I was refused leave and the usual hullabaloo to contact the Enforcement team by 15 September.
I have no intention of contacting them or infact if I do, I intend to tell them to shove it up their whatever so they issue removal directions! Rant over!!! Sorry guys, was about to lose my religion. Got to stay calm!! Haven't seen the letter itself as I'm not at home at the mo but it was read to me over the phone. Will come back on Monday and let you know!
Thanks for all the support !
Wawriko congrats
Oh Im so sorry to hear this!!! Especially since they asked you to send them additional docs like!!! It really felt you ll be granted in a matter of days!!! This is most unfair hun and I hope your solicitor will say reconsideration letter will be enough!!! Makes me so angry this sh*t they do to parents of kids and a 7 year rule these dayzzz!!! Grrrr!!
@wariko Congrats hun!! Well done!
No I don't but my child's father receives it (in his name and Ni) but my bank details.Kukuwife wrote:Rammie20- hello the first question you ask has to do with section 5.4 "Does a relative or friend of you or your partner, or both of you, regularly give you money? (Please note applicants applying on the basis of family life as a parent are not permitted to include third party support.". You are been supported by friends which may be difficult to quantify.
The second question is about receving public fund in section 5.5
What you receive is child credit
The questions are not the same
Yes you can apply as a parent without a status, so your rely on EX1 paragraphRammie20 wrote:I have just read some where that if you do not have a regular status in Uk, you cannot apply as a parent of a British child but rather...."". the parent does not meet the requirements set out above, they may be able to make a claim under the so-called ‘exception’ contained in the new rules. This exception can apply where the parent has no regular status in the UK. The provision will apply where the parent ‘has a genuine and subsisting parental relationship’ with a child who is under 18, the child is in the UK and is a UK citizen or has lived in the UK continuously for at least seven years'.
Please how true is this?
Thanks Verbna.Do I still use the Flr(o) form? And tick which one plsverbina wrote:Yes you can apply as a parent without a status, so your rely on EX1 paragraphRammie20 wrote:I have just read some where that if you do not have a regular status in Uk, you cannot apply as a parent of a British child but rather...."". the parent does not meet the requirements set out above, they may be able to make a claim under the so-called ‘exception’ contained in the new rules. This exception can apply where the parent has no regular status in the UK. The provision will apply where the parent ‘has a genuine and subsisting parental relationship’ with a child who is under 18, the child is in the UK and is a UK citizen or has lived in the UK continuously for at least seven years'.
Please how true is this?
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... d/parents/Rammie20 wrote:Thanks Verbna.Do I still use the Flr(o) form? And tick which one plsverbina wrote:Yes you can apply as a parent without a status, so your rely on EX1 paragraphRammie20 wrote:I have just read some where that if you do not have a regular status in Uk, you cannot apply as a parent of a British child but rather...."". the parent does not meet the requirements set out above, they may be able to make a claim under the so-called ‘exception’ contained in the new rules. This exception can apply where the parent has no regular status in the UK. The provision will apply where the parent ‘has a genuine and subsisting parental relationship’ with a child who is under 18, the child is in the UK and is a UK citizen or has lived in the UK continuously for at least seven years'.
Please how true is this?
Sorry to hear your refusal, even people applied whose child lived in uk 7 or more years at the time of application is refused, they refused everybody, for you if they say that in the time of application your child wasn't 7 year, then might be you can reapply, if you have a solicitor, take a advice from him. God bless.Godsintervention wrote:Hi Everyone, congrats to all granted, those waiting your good news is on the way always stay connected with your Creator, only Him alone will never fails and to those who are refused the Aluta continues.....,astro123 wrote:Good evening good people of this forum. I just want to share this good news with you all. I received a phone call from my solicitor that I have been granted 30 months. I just cant believe it , if you remember I was refused in july and upon advice from someone on this forum I put in a new application on 31st july. Infact I have to insist before my solicitor would put in new application, because she wanted to go the JR way. Anyway thank all of you in this forum for your immeasurable contribution and encouragement. God will provide everybody with their heart desire.
Pls, listen everyone, I need an advise on this situation.
Applied on FLR(O) last September 2012 based on 7 years rule with my two kids ages 8 and 2 then, I came to this country in November 2005 with a year old child. my app was refused on 6/9/2013, HO said my child has not completed the required 7 years in this country as at the time of my application, asked to go to Enforcement whatever on 18th Sept, my main question is can I reapply instead?
@ yummymummy3j thank you for your prayers!! Goodnight!! I know we re now in good hands and The Almighty will hear your prayers! So im gonna sign off for now and hope I dont have any weird dreams tonight!!!!!yummymummy3j wrote:goodd evening guyz, i hope you are all doin gr8? i pray tommorrow bring forth good news.... until then i leave you in the care of the almighty God.... good nite and sweet dreamzzzzz
Godsintervention wrote:Hi Everyone, congrats to all granted, those waiting your good news is on the way always stay connected with your Creator, only Him alone will never fails and to those who are refused the Aluta continues.....,astro123 wrote:Good evening good people of this forum. I just want to share this good news with you all. I received a phone call from my solicitor that I have been granted 30 months. I just cant believe it , if you remember I was refused in july and upon advice from someone on this forum I put in a new application on 31st july. Infact I have to insist before my solicitor would put in new application, because she wanted to go the JR way. Anyway thank all of you in this forum for your immeasurable contribution and encouragement. God will provide everybody with their heart desire.
Pls, listen everyone, I need an advise on this situation.
Applied on FLR(O) last September 2012 based on 7 years rule with my two kids ages 8 and 2 then, I came to this country in November 2005 with a year old child. my app was refused on 6/9/2013, HO said my child has not completed the required 7 years in this country as at the time of my application, asked to go to Enforcement whatever on 18th Sept, my main question is can I reapply instead?
@GodsinterventionGodsintervention wrote:Hi Everyone, congrats to all granted, those waiting your good news is on the way always stay connected with your Creator, only Him alone will never fails and to those who are refused the Aluta continues.....,astro123 wrote:Good evening good people of this forum. I just want to share this good news with you all. I received a phone call from my solicitor that I have been granted 30 months. I just cant believe it , if you remember I was refused in july and upon advice from someone on this forum I put in a new application on 31st july. Infact I have to insist before my solicitor would put in new application, because she wanted to go the JR way. Anyway thank all of you in this forum for your immeasurable contribution and encouragement. God will provide everybody with their heart desire.
Pls, listen everyone, I need an advise on this situation.
Applied on FLR(O) last September 2012 based on 7 years rule with my two kids ages 8 and 2 then, I came to this country in November 2005 with a year old child. my app was refused on 6/9/2013, HO said my child has not completed the required 7 years in this country as at the time of my application, asked to go to Enforcement whatever on 18th Sept, my main question is can I reapply instead?
@Astro123, Don't be discouraged. I will suggest you apply afresh and try to follow the guide of documentations i have listed on page 284 of this discussion thread.Call me dude wrote:Godsintervention wrote:Hi Everyone, congrats to all granted, those waiting your good news is on the way always stay connected with your Creator, only Him alone will never fails and to those who are refused the Aluta continues.....,astro123 wrote:Good evening good people of this forum. I just want to share this good news with you all. I received a phone call from my solicitor that I have been granted 30 months. I just cant believe it , if you remember I was refused in july and upon advice from someone on this forum I put in a new application on 31st july. Infact I have to insist before my solicitor would put in new application, because she wanted to go the JR way. Anyway thank all of you in this forum for your immeasurable contribution and encouragement. God will provide everybody with their heart desire.
Pls, listen everyone, I need an advise on this situation.
Applied on FLR(O) last September 2012 based on 7 years rule with my two kids ages 8 and 2 then, I came to this country in November 2005 with a year old child. my app was refused on 6/9/2013, HO said my child has not completed the required 7 years in this country as at the time of my application, asked to go to Enforcement whatever on 18th Sept, my main question is can I reapply instead?
Sorry about your refusal and welcome to the forum.i think this people are using every cunning way they can to refuse people.they are trying to make money out of us(illegal/overstayers).it realy disappointing.if they know they can't stick to their rules,why make it.why not refund everybody they refuse?this people are just wicked and full of dearly beloved case workers.what do we expect from people displaying banners that immigrants should go home!Do we actually think they will change their mind when attending to our application?i don't think so.the lord is our strength and I still believe God can still help us touch the heart of the bad case workers!
@nilesmarques Honey I hope there is somebody on here who can shed some light on reconsideration letter mystery, but here's a quote from the comments section on Free Movement blog ( its by that Victoria Sharkey bird of MediVisas):nilemarques wrote:@ Verbina , thanks! The decision making is truly outrageous but the fighting spirit is still there! Just one question. This reconsideration letter, has anyone written it and succeeded? Hope there is someone on the forum who can share!verbina wrote:@nilemarquesBelieve2013 wrote:I am so sorry to hear about you refusal Nile, pls do share with us the reasons when you get home. It's good to see you have a fighting spiritnilemarques wrote:Hi guys, hope I find you well this evening!! It's with great sadness but with hope that I inform you that the long awaited package from the HO arrived this morning bearing the news that I wasn't hoping for! I was refused leave and the usual hullabaloo to contact the Enforcement team by 15 September.
I have no intention of contacting them or infact if I do, I intend to tell them to shove it up their whatever so they issue removal directions! Rant over!!! Sorry guys, was about to lose my religion. Got to stay calm!! Haven't seen the letter itself as I'm not at home at the mo but it was read to me over the phone. Will come back on Monday and let you know!
Wawriko congrats
Oh Im so sorry to hear this!!! Especially since they asked you to send them additional docs like!!! It really felt you ll be granted in a matter of days!!! This is most unfair hun and I hope your solicitor will say reconsideration letter will be enough!!! Makes me so angry this sh*t they do to parents of kids and a 7 year rule these dayzzz!!! Grrrr!!
@wariko Congrats hun!! Well done!
@Niles...am sorry for the refusal but as a lot of people have already advised...fight it and am sure you will be granted. I am in the same boat..applying on the seven year rule and married...am just trusting God but prepared to fight if things don't work out.verbina wrote:@nilesmarques Honey I hope there is somebody on here who can shed some light on reconsideration letter mystery, but here's a quote from the comments section on Free Movement blog ( its by that Victoria Sharkey bird of MediVisas):nilemarques wrote:@ Verbina , thanks! The decision making is truly outrageous but the fighting spirit is still there! Just one question. This reconsideration letter, has anyone written it and succeeded? Hope there is someone on the forum who can share!verbina wrote:@nilemarquesBelieve2013 wrote:
I am so sorry to hear about you refusal Nile, pls do share with us the reasons when you get home. It's good to see you have a fighting spirit
Wawriko congrats
Oh Im so sorry to hear this!!! Especially since they asked you to send them additional docs like!!! It really felt you ll be granted in a matter of days!!! This is most unfair hun and I hope your solicitor will say reconsideration letter will be enough!!! Makes me so angry this sh*t they do to parents of kids and a 7 year rule these dayzzz!!! Grrrr!!
@wariko Congrats hun!! Well done!
I haven’t had to yet go to JR, as I have found that a well worded request for reconsideration usually does the trick. I think that the main problem is that, in the first instance, a caseworker sees that the applicant has no leave and automatically refuses, but on a reconsideration request the application goes to someone with some sense who knows that the applicant is a shoe-in on Chikwamba and that they just cannot win in the end.
With the case I wrote about in the Guardian, it turned out that the caseworker had gone on maternity leave without handing the case over. A contunous fax campaign, which screwed up the Old Street machine, got the file on the desk of a senior manager who granted my client leave within a week of seeing the file.
Another case I handled recently resulted in a refusal *with* removal directions, again due to (I think) my being as annoying as possible and clogging up a fax machine. The appeal was then won.
Moral of the story – don’t always jump to JR, and don’t give up after the first refusal. Do all you can to get as much evidence as possible in the hands of a senior caseworker.
http://www.freemovement.org.uk/2011/02/ ... or-appeal/
