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This is good news @Verbina....its on the way.....depending on the age of your child (so it doesn't seem coerced)....a heartfelt letter from her on why she wants you in her life and what you mean to her and one from your partner could help as well. It worked for a friend.elastep wrote:@verbinaverbina wrote:OMFG!! Please HELP!!
I just got a letter from Home Office!! They said they asked my social worker for my contact orders, my daughter's birth certificate and my daughter's passport.
Then they said that before a decision is reached this is the chance to provide any additional information/evidence which demonstrates that I enjoy a family life (including cohabitation with my boyfriend) and my daughter....
I got 10 working days to provide all the info, but planning to do it asap.
Im totally dumbstruck!!
OMG Im actually gonna faint!!!
Why oh why do these things happen on Friday PM!!!!!!!
Very happy for you!!I remember saying that your visa will be granted before the festive season comes and this is the journey that takes you to the end of the road.
Do not worry that today is Friday. Take this weekend to sitdown and write down the list of things that you can provide e.g all NHS letters, Photo of you and your child and also of you and your partner, letters to you with your boyfriend address on it or his letter sharing same address with you and if you can, kindly ask you child foster parent if they can please provide you with copies of any letter with your child's name that she has ever recieved from school, dentist, doctors or other organizasion.
When you have what you can provide, write a cover letter explaning why you can't provide any other documents and add some of those crayon drawing that was given to you by your child and is still stuck on your Spam refrigirator. You never know, your caseworker might be a mummy too and she will apreciate the crayon drawing of a future Picaso or Van Gogh:lol:
Wishing you all the best.
@Crystal Aha lol she already wrote one of them 'heartfelt letters' (she is 12, so she just went on about her human rights and her academic achievements at school and that her future is at risk... )CrystalNewbie wrote:This is good news @Verbina....its on the way.....depending on the age of your child (so it doesn't seem coerced)....a heartfelt letter from her on why she wants you in her life and what you mean to her and one from your partner could help as well. It worked for a friend.elastep wrote:@verbinaverbina wrote:OMFG!! Please HELP!!
I just got a letter from Home Office!! They said they asked my social worker for my contact orders, my daughter's birth certificate and my daughter's passport.
Then they said that before a decision is reached this is the chance to provide any additional information/evidence which demonstrates that I enjoy a family life (including cohabitation with my boyfriend) and my daughter....
I got 10 working days to provide all the info, but planning to do it asap.
Im totally dumbstruck!!
OMG Im actually gonna faint!!!
Why oh why do these things happen on Friday PM!!!!!!!
Very happy for you!!
Do not worry that today is Friday. Take this weekend to sitdown and write down the list of things that you can provide e.g all NHS letters, Photo of you and your child and also of you and your partner, letters to you with your boyfriend address on it or his letter sharing same address with you and if you can, kindly ask you child foster parent if they can please provide you with copies of any letter with your child's name that she has ever recieved from school, dentist, doctors or other organizasion.
When you have what you can provide, write a cover letter explaning why you can't provide any other documents and add some of those crayon drawing that was given to you by your child and is still stuck on your Spam refrigirator. You never know, your caseworker might be a mummy too and she will apreciate the crayon drawing of a future Picaso or Van Gogh:lol:
Wishing you all the best.
Good morning hun! Happy to know that you daughter wrote a letter... I want my kid to do the same. can you provide my kid (10 year) tips for writing a letter please? I asked but he can't do it properly. Thank you hun.verbina wrote:@Crystal Aha lol she already wrote one of them 'heartfelt letters' (she is 12, so she just went on about her human rights and her academic achievements at school and that her future is at risk... )CrystalNewbie wrote:This is good news @Verbina....its on the way.....depending on the age of your child (so it doesn't seem coerced)....a heartfelt letter from her on why she wants you in her life and what you mean to her and one from your partner could help as well. It worked for a friend.elastep wrote:@verbinaverbina wrote:OMFG!! Please HELP!!
I just got a letter from Home Office!! They said they asked my social worker for my contact orders, my daughter's birth certificate and my daughter's passport.
Then they said that before a decision is reached this is the chance to provide any additional information/evidence which demonstrates that I enjoy a family life (including cohabitation with my boyfriend) and my daughter....
I got 10 working days to provide all the info, but planning to do it asap.
Im totally dumbstruck!! :oops: :oops: :oops: What sort of additional evidence can I send? I mean I ve not got any joint bills or correspondence to our address with my boyfriend... Urrm also evidence of family life with my daughter.... Do they want photos?
OMG Im actually gonna faint!!!
Why oh why do these things happen on Friday PM!!!!!!!
Very happy for you!! :) I remember saying that your visa will be granted before the festive season comes and this is the journey that takes you to the end of the road.
Do not worry that today is Friday. Take this weekend to sitdown and write down the list of things that you can provide e.g all NHS letters, Photo of you and your child and also of you and your partner, letters to you with your boyfriend address on it or his letter sharing same address with you and if you can, kindly ask you child foster parent if they can please provide you with copies of any letter with your child's name that she has ever recieved from school, dentist, doctors or other organizasion.
When you have what you can provide, write a cover letter explaning why you can't provide any other documents and add some of those crayon drawing that was given to you by your child and is still stuck on your Spam refrigirator. You never know, your caseworker might be a mummy too and she will apreciate the crayon drawing of a future Picaso or Van Gogh:lol:
Wishing you all the best.
A pretty argumentative letter it was, as opposed to heartfelt and soppy, I was actually slightly concerned if I should even send it! But funnily enough it seems to have done the trick and I got this request for further evidence only a month after I sent them her letter....
@elastep great plan Batman! Im sending some arty cards she made for me at school when she was younger, those are totally cute and soppy- hope they melt caseworker's heart!
@believe awwwh thank you luv!! I so hope you get your hearing date soon! The only positive thing is that you re clocking more and more time here and your Article 8 is growing stronger!!
@naba @nilemarques thank you my darlings finally things are moving forward for me!!!
Hahaha I shouldnt be too elated though coz I might be moving towards refusal lol! You never know with them lot.....
Morning hun! Congratulations on getting your right to appeal!!naba wrote:Good morning hun! Happy to know that you daughter wrote a letter... I want my kid to do the same. can you provide my kid (10 year) tips for writing a letter please? I asked but he can't do it properly. Thank you hun.verbina wrote:@Crystal Aha lol she already wrote one of them 'heartfelt letters' (she is 12, so she just went on about her human rights and her academic achievements at school and that her future is at risk... )CrystalNewbie wrote:This is good news @Verbina....its on the way.....depending on the age of your child (so it doesn't seem coerced)....a heartfelt letter from her on why she wants you in her life and what you mean to her and one from your partner could help as well. It worked for a friend.elastep wrote:
@verbina
Very happy for you!!
Do not worry that today is Friday. Take this weekend to sitdown and write down the list of things that you can provide e.g all NHS letters, Photo of you and your child and also of you and your partner, letters to you with your boyfriend address on it or his letter sharing same address with you and if you can, kindly ask you child foster parent if they can please provide you with copies of any letter with your child's name that she has ever recieved from school, dentist, doctors or other organizasion.
When you have what you can provide, write a cover letter explaning why you can't provide any other documents and add some of those crayon drawing that was given to you by your child and is still stuck on your Spam refrigirator. You never know, your caseworker might be a mummy too and she will apreciate the crayon drawing of a future Picaso or Van Gogh:lol:
Wishing you all the best.
A pretty argumentative letter it was, as opposed to heartfelt and soppy, I was actually slightly concerned if I should even send it! But funnily enough it seems to have done the trick and I got this request for further evidence only a month after I sent them her letter....
@elastep great plan Batman! Im sending some arty cards she made for me at school when she was younger, those are totally cute and soppy- hope they melt caseworker's heart!
@believe awwwh thank you luv!! I so hope you get your hearing date soon! The only positive thing is that you re clocking more and more time here and your Article 8 is growing stronger!!
@naba @nilemarques thank you my darlings finally things are moving forward for me!!!
Hahaha I shouldnt be too elated though coz I might be moving towards refusal lol! You never know with them lot.....
Morning hun!! OMG these people are just relentless! Cant believe this! They sent you that text message not long ago and now they are writing to you! Idiots! I hope your solicitor can sort them out and get them to stop harassing you!!Keisha wrote:Morning beautiful people...
@Giggles...welcome to the forum and all the best with your application form.
@Verbs...*waves* God is with you and you're about to receive your stay.Keep the faith and happy there's some kind of progress despite all!
@Naba...congrats and they will grant you a date soon.Leave everything unto God!
My God is good oo and I shall never seize to praise.Y'day the little AMOEBAS from capita decided to send me a romantic letter...*rollseyes*,telling me they've tried to reach me to notify about not be allowed to be here!So,this morning sent the letter to the Solicitor who said will write them back to notify them about my pending case!Afterall,the law of God shall delete their man-made law for IT IS NO MAN'S LAND!!All I can say they may try to weigh me down but my God shall fight for me and preserve me in my coming and going.
Good people,don't be discouraged for these are temporary storms passing by and will never come back to us.Have a blessed weekend and keep the faith!!!!!
@verbina, thank you hun. The tips is helpful. Hope he should be fine. Have a nice weekend! God bless.verbina wrote:Morning hun! Congratulations on getting your right to appeal!!naba wrote:Good morning hun! Happy to know that you daughter wrote a letter... I want my kid to do the same. can you provide my kid (10 year) tips for writing a letter please? I asked but he can't do it properly. Thank you hun.verbina wrote:@Crystal Aha lol she already wrote one of them 'heartfelt letters' (she is 12, so she just went on about her human rights and her academic achievements at school and that her future is at risk... )CrystalNewbie wrote:
This is good news @Verbina....its on the way.....depending on the age of your child (so it doesn't seem coerced)....a heartfelt letter from her on why she wants you in her life and what you mean to her and one from your partner could help as well. It worked for a friend.
A pretty argumentative letter it was, as opposed to heartfelt and soppy, I was actually slightly concerned if I should even send it! But funnily enough it seems to have done the trick and I got this request for further evidence only a month after I sent them her letter....
@elastep great plan Batman! Im sending some arty cards she made for me at school when she was younger, those are totally cute and soppy- hope they melt caseworker's heart!
@believe awwwh thank you luv!! I so hope you get your hearing date soon! The only positive thing is that you re clocking more and more time here and your Article 8 is growing stronger!!
@naba @nilemarques thank you my darlings finally things are moving forward for me!!!
Hahaha I shouldnt be too elated though coz I might be moving towards refusal lol! You never know with them lot.....
Just tell him to write that he is a British Citizen and he spent all his life here. All his friends are here and he is doing really well at school. He cant imagine what his life could be like without his mummy because he loves you very much and needs you there for him every day. When he grows up he plans to go college and university and its you who encourages him to do so. You teach him that its important to get good education and pay attention at school to grow up a clever and successful person...He needs your support throughout his school years, college and university.
Yeah something like that... just to make an emphasis that contrary to public beliefs, immigrants and their children are not aspiring to live their lives on council estates getting jobseekers allowance ... That our children grow up ambitious and we instil good values within them and importance of education. That our children grow up to be well-educated law-abiding citizens , not some unemployed junkie hooligans...
Afternoon Keisha! Amen to your words!!Keisha wrote:Good Afternoon All,
Hope you had a good weekend and let's not give up.For God is with us every step of the way and He has authority over our papers!May He grant us visas in Jesus name.
@Summer...Hiya,try to google oand see if it can bring out anything about your matter.The thing is that these law-people always give different opinions.But,pray for God to guide you!
elastep wrote:Hello everyone!
I tought that I should post this article that I came across online. I remember some people were having some disagreement on whether two parents can apply under the 7 year rule or not. So I hope this shed some light on that discussion and hope it helps those who have been refused and are confused about their next course of action.
Filed under Visitors Tagged with family, judicial review, rule changes
Part EX.1 and sole responsibility
June 16, 2013 1 Comment
“If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.” I was optimistic last year at the apparent reintroduction of the 7-year rule. This followed the caselaw which in turn had followed the old policy of DP/5/96, which said that where a child had lived in the UK for seven years, it would not usually be reasonable to expect them to leave.
However, the reality of the situation has turned out to be less than ideal. The EX.1 part of Appendix FM is only applicable to those who also meet certain specified parts of the Immigration Rules – so, for example, UKBA are currently refusing applications where the applicant does not have ‘sole responsibility’ for the child and therefore cannot meet E-LTRPT.2.3 of Appendix FM which states that:
E-LTRPT.2.3. Either-
(a) the applicant must have sole parental responsibility for the child or the child normally lives with the applicant and not their other parent (who is a British Citizen or settled in the UK); or
(b) the parent or carer with whom the child normally lives must be-
(i) a British Citizen in the UK or settled in the UK;
(ii) not the partner of the applicant (which here includes a person who has been in a relationship with the applicant for less than two years prior to the date of application); and
(iii) the applicant must not be eligible to apply for leave to remain as a partner under this Appendix.
Essentially, the interpretation of EX.1 being applied by UKBA excludes married or partnered parents from the policy. This seems like insanity: given that the rule is, according to UKBA’s own guidance, in existence in order to ensure that the rights of the child are respected, what does the marital status of their parents have to do with it? Are UKBA seriously suggesting that parents who apply jointly are excluded, thus encouraging them to divorce in order to ensure their child gets to continue in education?
The application of the rule seems to fly in the face of the purpose of it and also the guidance. Such decisions may also contravene Article 8 ECHR as applied outside Appendix FM. The only way to challenge is usually via judicial review. Needless to say, I’ve spent much of the last fortnight writing judicial reviews on this point
Hello everyone,elastep wrote:Hello everyone!
I tought that I should post this article that I came across online. I remember some people were having some disagreement on whether two parents can apply under the 7 year rule or not. So I hope this shed some light on that discussion and hope it helps those who have been refused and are confused about their next course of action.
Filed under Visitors Tagged with family, judicial review, rule changes
Part EX.1 and sole responsibility
June 16, 2013 1 Comment
“If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.” I was optimistic last year at the apparent reintroduction of the 7-year rule. This followed the caselaw which in turn had followed the old policy of DP/5/96, which said that where a child had lived in the UK for seven years, it would not usually be reasonable to expect them to leave.
However, the reality of the situation has turned out to be less than ideal. The EX.1 part of Appendix FM is only applicable to those who also meet certain specified parts of the Immigration Rules – so, for example, UKBA are currently refusing applications where the applicant does not have ‘sole responsibility’ for the child and therefore cannot meet E-LTRPT.2.3 of Appendix FM which states that:
E-LTRPT.2.3. Either-
(a) the applicant must have sole parental responsibility for the child or the child normally lives with the applicant and not their other parent (who is a British Citizen or settled in the UK); or
(b) the parent or carer with whom the child normally lives must be-
(i) a British Citizen in the UK or settled in the UK;
(ii) not the partner of the applicant (which here includes a person who has been in a relationship with the applicant for less than two years prior to the date of application); and
(iii) the applicant must not be eligible to apply for leave to remain as a partner under this Appendix.
Essentially, the interpretation of EX.1 being applied by UKBA excludes married or partnered parents from the policy. This seems like insanity: given that the rule is, according to UKBA’s own guidance, in existence in order to ensure that the rights of the child are respected, what does the marital status of their parents have to do with it? Are UKBA seriously suggesting that parents who apply jointly are excluded, thus encouraging them to divorce in order to ensure their child gets to continue in education?
The application of the rule seems to fly in the face of the purpose of it and also the guidance. Such decisions may also contravene Article 8 ECHR as applied outside Appendix FM. The only way to challenge is usually via judicial review. Needless to say, I’ve spent much of the last fortnight writing judicial reviews on this point
verbina wrote:Afternoon darlings! Hope everyone is well !! Shout out to my crew here guys-you know who you are!!
Pheeeww I literally managed to send like a kilo of evidence off to my caseworker. Was planning to do it early yesterday but all sorts of evil obstacles got in the way... Well its all done now so now i just have to hope and pray now ...
Stock up the fridge with the finest bubbly you can afford and save whatever fireworks you got left. This year is about end in style for you and so shall it be by the grace of God 
@Ma logoMa logo wrote:Hello everyone, I got refused back in August and basically didn't follow up with anything. E.g Judicial review. Then today l received a call from Glasgow, Home Office saying that they need to write to me n therefore confirm my address.... Anyone have any idea what this could b bout?
verbina wrote:Hello luv!! Hope you re well! Thank you! You re right I need to think how the caseworker would think! Its just that my daughter is living with foster carers so we dont actually cohabityahwadud wrote:hello verb.try and send any document you have in cohibation with your daughter. Basically,I want you to sit and think as if you r a caseworker dealing with a particular case in which you expect the applicant to provide more documents that would convince you (as a caseworker )that he/she is enjoy family life with a kid!. This is my advice for u verb.and please make use of the opportunity bcos its your last chance to get granted at onceverbina wrote:OMFG!! Please HELP!!
I just got a letter from Home Office!! They said they asked my social worker for my contact orders, my daughter's birth certificate and my daughter's passport.
Then they said that before a decision is reached this is the chance to provide any additional information/evidence which demonstrates that I enjoy a family life (including cohabitation with my boyfriend) and my daughter....
I got 10 working days to provide all the info, but planning to do it asap.
I
Im totally dumbstruck!!
OMG Im actually gonna faint!!!
Why oh why do these things happen on Friday PM!!!!!!!but I ve got some photos from like Madame Tussauds and Ripleys museum etc so thats family life I suppose.... Ill send all that! Thank you once again!
Hi verbsverbina wrote:Hello luv!! Hope you re well! Thank you! You re right I need to think how the caseworker would think! Its just that my daughter is living with foster carers so we dont actually cohabityahwadud wrote:hello verb.try and send any document you have in cohibation with your daughter. Basically,I want you to sit and think as if you r a caseworker dealing with a particular case in which you expect the applicant to provide more documents that would convince you (as a caseworker )that he/she is enjoy family life with a kid!. This is my advice for u verb.and please make use of the opportunity bcos its your last chance to get granted at onceverbina wrote:OMFG!! Please HELP!!
I just got a letter from Home Office!! They said they asked my social worker for my contact orders, my daughter's birth certificate and my daughter's passport.
Then they said that before a decision is reached this is the chance to provide any additional information/evidence which demonstrates that I enjoy a family life (including cohabitation with my boyfriend) and my daughter....
I got 10 working days to provide all the info, but planning to do it asap.
Im totally dumbstruck!!
OMG Im actually gonna faint!!!
Why oh why do these things happen on Friday PM!!!!!!!
