east579new wrote:@east579new,
Thanks for your contribution, I stand to be corrected, there are eligibility and suitability requirements, one needs to pass otherwise one fails for refusal. But if flro is considered outside the immigration laws, then I stand a chance. Pardon me, I don't know how to do the link stuff, but if you search "suitability" on UKBA website, it is written there. That is why am confused. Of course I would not put in the bill but they do their checks and can find out themselves . Pls let me know what you think after going through it. Much thanks.
I keep seeing the post that FLR (O) rules are decided outside the rules, this I have to say is true but in all understanding, it is guided by its own rules and has requirements too. This rule shows how much you have contributed, integrated into the society hence why solicitors ask you to produce documents by evidencial default to help aid your application and this discretion is left with the caseworker. I applied under FLR (O) and had to submit documents so also anyone who is a sole carer for a British child, under the 7 year rule or article 8 also fall into the cartegory of outside the rules but yet have to go by the guidance of these requirements or else they will fall under the refusal pool. I hope that made any sense.
I understand what you are trying to say Mr lee but solicitors ask you for things that sometimes you may just not have or be able to obtain(they use these things just to try and strengthen your case/there case) and an application outside of the rules does not does not require you to show these things your finances in the end are erelevant its your circumstances and your childs wellbing that plays a major part.
Ie- a percent of people makeing FLR 0 applications on this blog are overstayers so tell me this how would overstayers have any finances to show? (they have no recourse to public funds/benifits) they have no permission to work SO SHOULDENT BE WORKING so in the real world should have £0 income.
Thats why there are no suitability requirements(financial) in FLR O applications its all to do with case law and how well your solicitor puts acreoss your case.
Handing in things that really there is no need to hand in is clouding the issue.
Now if someone has been granted permission to work etc whilst putting in an application thats a different matter.
I once remember a person on here who put in a free application i asume due to destitution then as soon as they were granted mentioned that it in a few weeks time they were going on holiday abroad for a break (sometimes you just cant make this stuff up lol).
Most people on here are makeing applications outside of the rules.[/quote]
lol I am pretty sure that holiday was needed after madam Theresa deprived them of it for a long time.
You are absolutely right with regards to the finances as it is irrelevant. On the other hand you do know some people are blessed to have a job despite the fact they are overstayers and I believe that the home office/solicitors request this in form of P45, P60 or payslips not because it's a requirement but to strongly prove your case that you are not depending on any states benefit in any way. This goes to show that you are also surving by supporting yourself. This I believe caseworkers like to see in terms of finances and if you are not working at least you are supported by a family member or a friend or something. I remember a gentleman here who had to explain to home office more than 3 times that his friend was supporting him in terms of finances and accommodation and that friend had to prove this by showing payslips before he Was granted.
I myself had to show this that my brother is my sponsor and solicitor requested in payslips that he is capable of looking after me etc.
Finances is not a requirement my dear friend but if you can prove that you ain't depending on state, you somehow have to show that you are surving some way or the other.