British Citizenship – Good Character Requirement FAQs

[Amber]

As 3 years has lapsed I concur with Matt.

[Blore]

Hi Amber & Other senior members,

A very quick question as I got my appointment with NCS tomorrow morning, Similar to someones question earlier.

I have Traffic light conviction TS10 on 06/07/2012 , got 3 points & paid £ 60 fine ( but not through court, I paid it in police station).

Now my question is, Do I need to mention this on my Application form, if yes ? should it be in Criminal conviction (3.6) on page no 10 ?

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... orm_an.pdf

Regards

[Amber]

No need to mention but take your paper counterpart of licence and the NCS will send a copy.

[Blore]

Thanks Amber,
as advised by you, I asked the NCS guy to keep my Driving license counterpart photocopy too which he was not sure what to do.

Regards

[Flurin]

Hi, I have a quick question please.

I got a cannabis warning about a year ago - this doesn't show up on my criminal record, but is recorded on the local police force system. Does this count as a non-custodial conviction, and would my application therefore be likely be refused? If it does count, would the fact that I'm a student at a good University, and have been in the UK for 15 years mean that I have better chance of succeeding?

Cheers

[navalaviator]

How do you know that the warning is recorded on the local systems? Were you given a written warning or you signed any official warning letters from police?

[Flurin]

I requested a CRB, which came back with nothing, but also requested any information stored on me by the local police force, and that came back with the cannabis warning. I guess I must have signed something at the time saying that I got a warning.

[navalaviator]

I requested a CRB, which came back with nothing, but also requested any information stored on me by the local police force, and that came back with the cannabis warning. I guess I must have signed something at the time saying that I got a warning.

Did you request the PNC check by paying £10 at the police station? Did your police certificate of records of convictions, cautions, warnings and raprimands showed the warning? or did you ask specifically for the locally held info about you on the local police systems?

[navalaviator]

A question for amber specifically


How long the information is held on the local police systems? Are there any timeframes after which this locally held info. is deleted?

cheers

[Amber]

Do you mean on an enhanced DBS certificate or in general? In general, information on the PNC/PND is deleted only once a person reaches age 100.

See also, ACPO Retention Guidelines for Nominal Records on the Police National Computer (click).

[navalaviator]

Thanks for replying amber, read appreciate your feedback.
What about the non conviction info. In the case of (flurin) above?
Information on PND is held for 100 years is not very encouraging though where all such information is normally non conviction information.

[Amber]

If the information is not listed in the retention guideline then it may be held indefinitely until someone questions it. It's use may become less important over time.

Bio-metric data held from 'innocent citizens' is destroyed after a prescribed period as per the Protection of Freedoms Act.

[Flurin]

I did both. For the £10 fee you get both your national police record checked, and any information held about you on the local force.
So this form, https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/m ... -sar-1.pdf, which tells you about your national police record came back with nothing, and this one https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/m ... rm-462.pdf, where you have to specify the time and date of the incident for them to find it, did come back with the warning.

[Blore]

Hi Amber & other senior members,

I have applied for Naturalization on Feb 3rd and my money is deducted last week, But only today I came to know from my old flatmates that I have received a Notice from Debt collecting agency ( Marston - High court Enforcement officers & Bailiffs) stating I have a penalty due from last year 19-03-2013 (going in Bus lane) of £ 400, So my question once I sort this issue & pay my penalty will this affect my application now ? do I need to inform UKBA about this ? if yes how ? Please..

Regards

[Amber]

Get it sorted out and hopefully it'll be of no consequence. As you've not been arrested or convicted there should be no reason to report it.

[Blore]

Thank you Amber,
I will speak to the Bailiffs tomorrow & check if my Penalty charge was assigned to Bailiffs for recovery from Court (because it is due from past 1 year). If no then as per your advise I believe, I should be alright.

Regards

[royh]

Personally I find it strange that a marijuana possession would not be on the standard checks but on the enhanced checks "local files".

Information on PND is held for 100 years is not very encouraging though where all such information is normally non conviction information.

http://www.immigrationboards.com/post94 ... ml#p948412

The only way out of the Police National Computer is to have been involved with the police before 2006 with a minor offence. If it doesn't show up it's probably been deleted and you are scott free, see the link above. Remember it has to been before 2006 and not show up on the checks for you to know for sure.

As most know there are two checks you can request, the standard Police National Computer and the other one "enhanced checks".
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If you would also like details of your local records, which may be disclosed on enhanced DBS checks at the discretion of the Chief Constable, you can apply for your ‘full nominal record’.
"

[Amber]

Before 2006 and the weeding rules, much data was only deleted if requested to do so.

[itsahmedawan]

hi friends
i have a question so pls help me if u can
i have been caught on london underground using some one else travel card so i have recived a summond from wimbledon Magistrates court for appearing and i they give me an option to feel guilty so then i do not need to present in court,so i felt guilty and fine me so i paid fine on the fone to court.
actually i do not know what the exact date of this court letter so i applied my spouse visa 3 yrs before and i did not mention this n my visa, after that i applied my ILR and agian i did not mention this thing n my visa application forms.
now i m appliying for citizen ship and i checked my previos papers so i found that court letter dated 14/12/2009 so any 1 give me any advice on this issue that what should do i do n this matter coz i applied 2 time visa and i did not mention this thing n my visas and home office did not say any thing to me and granted me my visasa.its now more then 4 yrs now.
i will be very thnkful to u.

[SameerBhagawatUk]

hi friends
i have a question so pls help me if u can
i have been caught on london underground using some one else travel card so i have recived a summond from wimbledon Magistrates court for appearing and i they give me an option to feel guilty so then i do not need to present in court,so i felt guilty and fine me so i paid fine on the fone to court.
actually i do not know what the exact date of this court letter so i applied my spouse visa 3 yrs before and i did not mention this n my visa, after that i applied my ILR and agian i did not mention this thing n my visa application forms.
now i m appliying for citizen ship and i checked my previos papers so i found that court letter dated 14/12/2009 so any 1 give me any advice on this issue that what should do i do n this matter coz i applied 2 time visa and i did not mention this thing n my visas and home office did not say any thing to me and granted me my visasa.its now more then 4 yrs now.
i will be very thnkful to u.

More senior members like Amber will certainly give the correct advice. But, were you convicted in the court for anything?

The way that you have described you should be fine. I would recommend getting a Subject access report for yourself to ascertain that you do not have any criminal record. But, I would doubt that you would have one.

good luck with your application

[itsahmedawan]

hi friends
what is conviction?????
if u commit any offence and u have to go the court and u accept this offence ans u pay ur fine, will it b a conviction????
or
if u commit any offence and u go to the court and u do not accept this,then court proof that u did it and fined u after proofing this so will it be conviction????
i will be appreciate for answering.

[itsahmedawan]

SameerBhagawat

More senior members like Amber will certainly give the correct advice. But, were you convicted in the court for anything?

The way that you have described you should be fine. I would recommend getting a Subject access report for yourself to ascertain that you do not have any criminal record. But, I would doubt that you would have one.

good luck with your application
hi sameer
thnx for answering
actually i was travilng on london underground using some 1 else ticket and i hve been caught so london underground went to the court and court send me summoned to appear in magestrate court to pleed guilty or not guilty and then i pleed guilty by written that i did this offence.
later court fined me through a letter and i paid that fined by fone to court.
now what u think will it b conviction or not.
thnx for ur help.

[navalaviator]

SameerBhagawat
actually i was travilng on london underground using some 1 else ticket and i hve been caught so london underground went to the court and court send me summoned to appear in magestrate court to pleed guilty or not guilty and then i pleed guilty by written that i did this offence.
later court fined me through a letter and i paid that fined by fone to court.
now what u think will it b conviction or not.
thnx for ur help.

Anything which ends up in court is normally a conviction I'm afraid.

[I]

I will be applying for naturalisation next week. I have a non endorsable fixed penalty notice for no tail light which was a fine that I paid in the last 12 months. Last week I recieved a confirmation for a red light offence. I will not be contesting that either. Should I wait till the black points are updated on my license before applying and should I declare both offences? Will I be refused for having 2 offences?

[Magik009]

Hello Friends,

I have a question, please help me if you can, Back in June 2012 I got 3 points(outside court) speeding and another 3 points and FPN for using mobile whilst driving in Nov 2012 (outside court), will this effect my good character requirement (as I had 2 FPN's in same year)?

Should I wait till 2016 and then apply or can I apply now?

Thanks for your expert help in advance.

Thanks & Regards