FLR (HSMP) LIMBO

mooty · Post by **mooty** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:37 pm

hi there

I'm stuck in a limbo and hope somebody will help in this regard. I can't figure it out what to do in that situation. the fiasco began when I started postgraduate study in 2003 in Manchester University and successfully finished in 2006. since then I'm studying in a College in Manchester. I know these colleges don't offer recognized degree despite their claim to be registered with dfes and all. now I fear that when I am going to apply my first time FLR (HSMP) I will be refused. the more intersting bit in this fiasco is that I have not had my student visa extention on this college, in fact, prior to enrollment in a college I had obtained admission in salford university, got visa extention then left the course and join the college due cheap courses available in this college but soon I realise I made a mistake.
then got HSMP in May, now I am looking forward to apply FLR HSMP in near future. now I am no longer attending this college since I got my HSMP. my question is that could I get flr hsmp on the basis of my previous postgraduate which I successfully done from Man University whithout mentioning anything of this college or the my abandonment of salford university.

thanx in advance

mooty · Post by **mooty** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:07 pm

anyone?

HSMPreqJun07 · Post by **HSMPreqJun07** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:58 pm

Mooty, You already got the HSMP, so the only thing that matters now is the funding you have to survive in UK. and if you received sponsorship from the British Government, any other government, or an international scholarship agency? you need to provide a confirmation from the sponsor giving consent to you remaining in the UK to undertake this employment.

Hope this answers your question

mooty · Post by **mooty** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:19 pm

thanx hsmprjune2007 for input but it dosn't answere my question.

SYH · Post by **SYH** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:11 pm

Mooty thank you for sending me an email. However, the reason why no one is really answering you is because HSMPreq has basically answered the question. You seem to think there is some kind of issue that jeopardizes your application (renewal) From what you have listed, you seem to make a problem out of something that doesn't exist or I do not understand the problem as you have laid it out. If you will kindly explain why the scenario you have listed is an issue, then perhaps you will get more responses.

mooty · Post by **mooty** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:51 pm

thanx SYH for your quick response.
the questions is:, since i was graduated from Man University in 2006, I havn't studied (gained any qualification) but I am on student visa (extention obtained on university course then left University and join some college) but now I no more attend college. would that be a problem in my flr application? because i wont be able to present anything from college. i.e result sheet or attandance or something.

gordon · Post by **gordon** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:41 pm

Do you think it would be helpful to request a copy of the HO's records on your immigration history ? I am not sure whether one can obtain a student visa for study at Univ X and then enrol elsewhere, but at any rate if you've dropped out from study completely, what would you consider your status to be ? Surely not a student.
AG

LondonBlonde · Post by **LondonBlonde** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:46 am

Mooty - gordon is saying that the HO no longer considers you a student if you have obtained an HSMP visa.

HSMP is a settlemant visa, your student visa is not.

The HO is assuming you will forget about your student visa and only worry about your HSMP visa, as hopefully this will be the last visa you will have before you become a permenant resident.

LondonBlonde

gordon · Post by **gordon** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:07 am

Actually, when I read mooty's post, I was bit confused. I was not sure whether he had just received approval, or had actually changed his leave to HSMP. If he didn't leave the country and obtain entry clearance abroad, then this FLR application would be for his first HSMP visa. And while the guidance notes indicate that he may switch his leave before the end of his current (student) visa, it is not clear (to me, at least) that leave as a student continued when he dropped his course. AG

mooty · Post by **mooty** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:27 pm

thanx guru's for that.

I 'm incountry applicant and trying to switch from student to HSMP and entitle to swich because I am holding a postgraduate degree from Manchester University. finish this postgraduate course in 2006 then got admission in another university and got extention. somehow on genuine ground left this university and join this college in Manchester. but I wasn't doing very well in this course anyway, but since I got my HSMP approval I just stop going this college anymore and will be applying FLR (HSMP) in October.I wont be getting any satisfactory feedback from college but got a postgraduate degree though wich fulfill the requirement. the question is that do I need to mention anything about leaving university and joining college?

mooty · Post by **mooty** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:28 pm

thanx guru's for that.

I 'm incountry applicant and trying to switch from student to HSMP and entitle to swich because I am holding a postgraduate degree from Manchester University. finish this postgraduate course in 2006 then got admission in another university and got extention. somehow on genuine ground left this university and join this college in Manchester. but I wasn't doing very well in this course anyway, but since I got my HSMP approval I just stop going this college anymore and will be applying FLR (HSMP) in October.I wont be getting any satisfactory feedback from college but got a postgraduate degree though wich fulfill the requirement. the question is that do I need to mention anything about leaving university and joining college?

SYH · Post by **SYH** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:42 pm

Why would you need to explain that you left one university and got a degree in another university.
Did you look at the FLR application for HSMP?
Try checking the application, it might just answer your question.

gordon · Post by **gordon** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:11 pm

But if the HO has received any indication that mooty dropped out of his programme of study, would that not then render him ineligible to switch via FLR ? I would not have thought that one could switch if the original visa (student) were consider invalid or lapsed (as a function of dropping out).

The earlier master's degree would be fine for meeting the points threshold, but the basic premise of changing to HSMP via the FLR(HSMP) from a potentially lapsed student visa, is what I found problematic. That's why I asked what the actual current visa status was, if he dropped out (of both the first and the second programmes). Depending on that visa status, or lack thereof, mightn't he need instead to apply for entry clearance, rather than a visa switch ?

AG

SYH · Post by **SYH** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:14 pm

Yeah but he seems to think that somehow we know his background without him providing the info so his first step should be the application. Your point gordon is valid but I guess I don't feel like pulling teeth out of him

gordon · Post by **gordon** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:10 pm

Fair enough, I suppose my point was that he needed to clarify his current visa status (for himself at least, if not also to satisfy my vicarious interest) in order to determine whether he was using the proper form ! It sounds as though it could get rather sticky - the absent information is likely rather more telling than the given information. AG

avjones · Post by **avjones** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:13 am

You seem to have been in breach of your student visa terms - you aren't supposed to switch withou permission from the HO.

avjones · Post by **avjones** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:14 am

You seem to have been in breach of your student visa terms - you aren't supposed to switch withou permission from the HO.

avjones · Post by **avjones** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:14 am

You seem to have been in breach of your student visa terms - you aren't supposed to switch withou permission from the HO.

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FLR (HSMP) LIMBO

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