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hambvart
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Immigration Help for Foreign Nationals

Post by hambvart » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:57 am

Dear all,

For the past year I've been seriously considering about emigrating from my home country and living in one of the European developed countries.The main reason that I want to live abroad is that I am gay and me and my boyfriend don't feel ourselves safe and complete people in this country and society. The society is extremely homophobic and intolerant towards diversity. Either we should become like them or leave a closed life, separated from all. We do so, but we don't feel and can't express ourselves as complete people, fully integrated to the society. We kind of feel depressed since we can't imagine our presence and future anyhow. Fortunately, we HAVE NOT undergone persecution or physical violence, so we WILL NOT be eligible for refugee status. Our problem is more psychological and maybe we could get to the UK for humanitarian status. Even once, last year my boyfriend self-injured himself, because his family discovered his homosexuality. But luckily the family was wise enough to take him to a psychologist. Still the family thinks he 'got treated' and is no longer gay; they don't know about us.

About Ourselves.
I am 25, graduated from med-school with MD degree, like to develop and I self-educate myself a lot. I am currently unemployed. My main mission for the future is to become a person who can make a change, protect lgbt people in all aspects of life (mental health, human rights, integration into society, etc.)
My bf is 23, graduated from med-school with MBBS degree and is currently working on his MPH degree.

Why the UK?
Well, we were initially thinking about those countries who have adopted same-sex marriage/partnership laws, since we want to get into homosexual civil partnership. Then we focused on the UK for the following reason: we both even have been admitted to master programmes at UK universities with high academic reputations, but unfortunately unable to come as students because the tuition is very high and for people like us, who come from poor countries, it is unlikely to pay the tuition. So this plans should be delayed for a while. But we've explored a lot about the UK and fell that that is the place were we can become complete persons; we want to study, discover and advance in this country.

I just want to persuade one that we can become a useful people for the UK. We don't need financial or any other kind of support; we are able to create everything ourselves.We just want to know if it is possible to get a humanitarian protection or permission to leave in the UK and get into civil partnership. We are non-EU, non-EEA, non-Commonwealth citizens (of a post-soviet country).

Thank you.

MPH80
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Re: Immigration Help for Foreign Nationals

Post by MPH80 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:20 pm

Is there a question buried in here?

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Re: Immigration Help for Foreign Nationals

Post by Wanderer » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:25 pm

MPH80 wrote:Is there a question buried in here?
Think it's;

1. We're gay

2. Our country isn't gay friendly

Question: Can we move to UK because it's more gay friendly, on Humanitarian grounds?
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

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Re: Immigration Help for Foreign Nationals

Post by hambvart » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:30 pm

Wanderer wrote:
MPH80 wrote:Is there a question buried in here?
Think it's;

1. We're gay

2. Our country isn't gay friendly

Question: Can we move to UK because it's more gay friendly, on Humanitarian grounds?
Yes, this is the question. Sorry, I forgot to include it.

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Re: Immigration Help for Foreign Nationals

Post by MPH80 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:34 pm

Not unless you're facing persecution and then you'll have to prove that:

a) you're gay (and that might be quite uncomfortable! see: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24479812)
b) Your country actively persecutes homosexuals or it is illegal.

Which you've said it doesn't.

So - no.

For example on how the EU sees this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24848887

M.

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Re: Immigration Help for Foreign Nationals

Post by Just Wondering » Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:46 am

First, you will not get humanitarian protection. The fact you don't like where you're living doesn't qualify you. You are not being persecuted nor are you under threat of violence or death. Your are not exposed to torture, or inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. Whilst I appreciate your situation is uncomfortable, there are people who are going through a lot worse which needs priority under this category.

If you really want out of your home country then you need to start looking at legitimate ways to leave.

You both seem highly educated. You would be worthwhile to look at the whether you can be sponsored to work in the UK under a Tier 2 visa. The most obvious is the NHS, and there are pages of material on their policies around sponsoring medical workers. Alternatively, you can see if you can find work either in another country like Australia.

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