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E.U directive 2004/38/ec

Post by irish_ruskei » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:22 pm

Hi, I am Iirsh and my wife is Russian, we have been married since 2004 and have travelled outside Ireland a few times since then (always getting a visa first, for my wife) My wife has what here in Ireland is called a "Stamp 4" residence card,it is called a GNIB card (Garda National Immigration Bureau), allowing her leave to remain in Ireland by virtue of marriage to an Irish citizen. In my wifes Russian passport there is an Irish multi entry D-visa (it doesn't go any higher than D) valid until almost 2010 with "spouse of Irish national" wriiten on it. A few days ago I contacted the Latvian embassy in Dublin (we were thinking of going to Latvia for a holiday) and I was told under an E.U directive my wife did not now need any type of visa to travel to Latvia (or any other E.U state).....this was of course great news!

Following that we thought about changing destination and going to Moldova (flying via the UK and Romania or flying to Moldova via Lithuania....all E.U states) As a Russian my wife doesn't need a visa for Moldova, nor do I as an E.U citizen. Anyway, most of the embassies are closed over the xmas period but we need to go ahead and buy our tickets!!! Can we go ahead and buy our airline tickets (they are not exactly cheap!) and rest assured that my wife can enter any E.U country without a visa as long as we travel together? I believe we can?

I have tried to contact the European Commission in Dublin but they will not be open until tomorrow, I 'll try then too. I have spoken to someone at the Irish Foreirn Ministry but they are not too sure! It's almost laughable. It seems that although there is a E.C directive that some states have not implemented it or something? So, we are trying to figure out if firstly my wife would be allowed to board the plane to wherever we decide to go and if not what could we do? (If it is E.U law that she should be allowed to travel with me without a visa then can the airline stop us? And if they do are they not breaking the law?...even if they do not about this directive...after all ignorance of the law is no defence)

Also, what happens when we get to, lets say, Bucharest....and immigration there decide to refuse entry to my wife? Maybe they do not know about the directive also?!!! If they do that aren't they also breaking the law? So in effect are the police and authorities breaking the law?!!! (I have contacted the Romanian Embassy and was told that my wife needs a visa?!!!....he mumbled something about a problem with the directive and that maybe in January my wife wouldn't need a visa?....I thibnk they make it up as they go along!)

Basically, can we travel to any E.U State without my wife having to get a visa? Any info is more than appreciated. Thanks.

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Post by Wanderer » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:45 pm

This is the problem you face with EU law, it's there in black and white but the folks on the desks don't know the rules.

If it were me, I'd prefer to pay the fees (even when supposedly free) and have the correct visas at all times, cos a holiday for me is to free myself from stress, not add to it...

Udachi vam - s rozdestvom i s novym godom!
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

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Post by irish_ruskei » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:39 am

Wanderer wrote:This is the problem you face with EU law, it's there in black and white but the folks on the desks don't know the rules.

If it were me, I'd prefer to pay the fees (even when supposedly free) and have the correct visas at all times, cos a holiday for me is to free myself from stress, not add to it...

Udachi vam - s rozdestvom i s novym godom!
The actual visa if free it is just a lot of hassle, as we don't live in Dublin plus the fact that it takes too long to get the visa, we were told it could be about 2 weeks for Slovakia, about 1 week for Lithuania, none required for Latvia.....

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