GTV promise_peer review route RAeng_mandatory criterea

[tttttt]

Hi everyone,

I want to apply for GTV for the peer review route.
I have a couple of questions.

I am 29. My record is Hirsh 11 with 10 first-authored papers in good journals. I just finished PhD in UK and I have some work experience in science. I also had been doing my PhD as a part of the Horizon 2020 project and there is my name on the EU portal as a participant, but the main grant holder is my supervisor. This project paid for my PhD fees and scholarship. I also held one small research project as a grant holder (~5 000 GBP for 2 years) in my home country during my master's. And I have an offer for a Postdoc position.

So 2 questions:

1. Do you think a have a chance with Exceptional promise peer review route?

2. One of the mandatory criteria according to RAeng is "You must have been awarded, or have held in the last five years, a prestigious UK‐based research fellowship, an international fellowship or advanced post judged by the endorsing body to be equivalent to such a fellowship."
Do you think participance in Horizon 2020 will be counted as that?

Thank you!
I'd love to hear about your experience with this route and especially what you showed for the last criteria.

[anonvtic]

So 2 questions:

1. Do you think a have a chance with Exceptional promise peer review route?

2. One of the mandatory criteria according to RAeng is "You must have been awarded, or have held in the last five years, a prestigious UK‐based research fellowship, an international fellowship or advanced post judged by the endorsing body to be equivalent to such a fellowship."
Do you think participance in Horizon 2020 will be counted as that?

Thank you!
I'd love to hear about your experience with this route and especially what you showed for the last criteria.

1. Yes. I applied for RAEng endorsement with just 8 months of post-doc experience. I had only 3 first-author journal papers, and a couple of conference papers, 1 patent and 1 turned-down patent-application. Your chance of success also depends on how you spin your 2000-word statement in the application, the strength of your recommendation letter from a reputed UK professor, and the RAEng evaluator that assesses your application. Others fresh out of a PhD have been approved, whilst I know someone with a 2 year post-doc experience was rejected. The reco letter should absolutely cover the 5 aspects they require.

2. Participation in H2020 alone will not count towards the fellowship requirement. However, there is a rider in the eligibility criteria which states that you can have served in an advanced research position, and that is pretty open-ended, which many applications (including myself) used to project the strengths of our research.

[tttttt]

Thanks a lot for your reply

[usman14]

Do you think applying without a PhD and with only one publication still holds any chance if you really have stellar letters and statements?

So 2 questions:

1. Do you think a have a chance with Exceptional promise peer review route?

2. One of the mandatory criteria according to RAeng is "You must have been awarded, or have held in the last five years, a prestigious UK‐based research fellowship, an international fellowship or advanced post judged by the endorsing body to be equivalent to such a fellowship."
Do you think participance in Horizon 2020 will be counted as that?

Thank you!
I'd love to hear about your experience with this route and especially what you showed for the last criteria.

1. Yes. I applied for RAEng endorsement with just 8 months of post-doc experience. I had only 3 first-author journal papers, and a couple of conference papers, 1 patent and 1 turned-down patent-application. Your chance of success also depends on how you spin your 2000-word statement in the application, the strength of your recommendation letter from a reputed UK professor, and the RAEng evaluator that assesses your application. Others fresh out of a PhD have been approved, whilst I know someone with a 2 year post-doc experience was rejected. The reco letter should absolutely cover the 5 aspects they require.

2. Participation in H2020 alone will not count towards the fellowship requirement. However, there is a rider in the eligibility criteria which states that you can have served in an advanced research position, and that is pretty open-ended, which many applications (including myself) used to project the strengths of our research.

[anonvtic]

Do you think applying without a PhD and with only one publication still holds any chance if you really have stellar letters and statements?

1. The Stage 1 endorsement application form had a field to list the details of and provide an accessible link to each of the applicant's publications (when I applied, in Feb 2020). Don't know if this form has been updated since then.

2. If you think you meet the eligibility criteria for exceptional promise, and are still contributing to original research in your field, please make an objective judgment call (perhaps by having a friend who is familiar with your field review & assess the strength of your application). I personally think that a strong letter from the UK professor is important. Do make sure that the academic who writes the letter explicitly addresses the 5 aspects asked for. Secondly, publications and patents are certainly important, and finally, the statement of purpose is your chance to provide a well-rounded explanation of your research and its importance to the UK society and economy and try and make a cogent case.

For the peer review route, a stage 1 endorsement application needs to holistically convey the strengths of your research and its benefits to the wider community through a combination of these individual elements.

[asarush]

Hi everyone,

I want to apply for GTV for the peer review route.
I have a couple of questions.

I am 29. My record is Hirsh 11 with 10 first-authored papers in good journals. I just finished PhD in UK and I have some work experience in science. I also had been doing my PhD as a part of the Horizon 2020 project and there is my name on the EU portal as a participant, but the main grant holder is my supervisor. This project paid for my PhD fees and scholarship. I also held one small research project as a grant holder (~5 000 GBP for 2 years) in my home country during my master's. And I have an offer for a Postdoc position.

So 2 questions:

1. Do you think a have a chance with Exceptional promise peer review route?

2. One of the mandatory criteria according to RAeng is "You must have been awarded, or have held in the last five years, a prestigious UK‐based research fellowship, an international fellowship or advanced post judged by the endorsing body to be equivalent to such a fellowship."
Do you think participance in Horizon 2020 will be counted as that?

Thank you!
I'd love to hear about your experience with this route and especially what you showed for the last criteria.

@tttttt How did it go with your endorsement application? I am in a very similar situation as you (fresh out of PhD in UK and with postdoc offer) and would like to know if I may have a chance. If your application is successful, could you let me know if there was anything specific that you submitted (which may help with the application).
Thanks!

[tttttt]

Hi!

I got endorsement after 5 weeks and finally got my visa!

In my application I was trying to show proofs for each of their criteria.


You must be an active researcher in a relevant field, typically in a university, research institute or in industry; -> showed my citations, patent and that few of my publication in top 10% according to SciVal and my participation in projects

You must have a PhD or equivalent research experience (including industrial or clinical research);-> showed my degree

You must be at an early stage in your career; -> I have lees then 8 years of experience

You must have been awarded, or have held in the last five years, a prestigious UK‐based research fellowship, an international fellowship or advanced post judged by the endorsing body to be equivalent to such a fellowship. -> asked my HR for official offer letter for postdoc position

And also mentioned in my Personal statement that I do research in priority field for the UK ((UKRI strategy)

Don't know if that helps
Good luck with you application!

@tttttt How did it go with your endorsement application? I am in a very similar situation as you (fresh out of PhD in UK and with postdoc offer) and would like to know if I may have a chance. If your application is successful, could you let me know if there was anything specific that you submitted (which may help with the application).
Thanks!
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[anonvtic]

Congrats. As I had said, the criteria bar is not insurmountable. We just need to present the whole portfolio carefully to be able to touch on the relevant aspects.