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Bringing mother to the UK

Post by apple12 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:13 pm

Hi

I would like to ask for some advice please.

My mother is currently in this country from Nigeria on a visitor visa. At this present moment she is in hospital following an operation, the recovery for this is likely to be at least 5 months, at which point she will need a further operation. In addition to her present medical problems she also has issues with diabetes, high blood pressure and cholesterol. She will not be any state to travel when her visitor visa expires in November.

My mother is a 63 year old widow, my brother no longer lives in Nigeria. I am a British citizen.

I would really like to know from any one that has experience with this, how likely is it that my mother will be granted a visa to stay in the UK permanently? If this is refused what can I actually do, she will not be able to travel home.

Thanking you in advance for your help.

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Re: Bringing mother to the UK

Post by Casa » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:38 pm

You may be able to apply for an extension on compassionate grounds.
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Re: Bringing mother to the UK

Post by Wanderer » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:48 pm

apple12 wrote:Hi

I would like to ask for some advice please.

My mother is currently in this country from Nigeria on a visitor visa. At this present moment she is in hospital following an operation, the recovery for this is likely to be at least 5 months, at which point she will need a further operation. In addition to her present medical problems she also has issues with diabetes, high blood pressure and cholesterol. She will not be any state to travel when her visitor visa expires in November.

My mother is a 63 year old widow, my brother no longer lives in Nigeria. I am a British citizen.

I would really like to know from any one that has experience with this, how likely is it that my mother will be granted a visa to stay in the UK permanently? If this is refused what can I actually do, she will not be able to travel home.

Thanking you in advance for your help.
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Re: Bringing mother to the UK

Post by Casa » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:08 pm

One point to consider...has she been paying for her medical treatment or does she have medical insurance?
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Re: Bringing mother to the UK

Post by apple12 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:24 pm

Thank you for your replies.

No we do not have insurance and we have not been paying for her treatment, she has been receiving care from the NHS.

Does this make any difference?

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Re: Bringing mother to the UK

Post by apple12 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:25 pm

I also wanted to ask about other posts that I have read that said if you apply for permenant residency and it is refused that it then becomes very difficult to obtain a visitor visa. Is this true?
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Re: Bringing mother to the UK

Post by Wanderer » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:31 pm

Point 1, as a visitor she's only entitled to emergency treatment, i.e. A&E etc, anything else she'll have to pay for I'm afraid, and it's also something that could result in a ban.

Which brings me to point 2, yes, unsuccessful Adult dependant applications (and as for as we can tell, 99.99% are unsuccessful) result in a level of suspicion of the intent to settle in subsequent visit visa applications.
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Re: Bringing mother to the UK

Post by apple12 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:36 pm

Thank you for your help.

In your opinion do you think that I would be better off just asking for an extension to her visitor visa? The problem is that her medical treatment could carry on for up to one year. Would an extension of that long be possible?

And (sorry, one last question) is it best that we apply via an immigration solicitor or can we just do it ourselves, I presume via the government website?

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Re: Bringing mother to the UK

Post by Wanderer » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:46 pm

Is treatment available back home, or put more accurately, if the authorities said treatment IS available back home, how can you counter that? Is she immobile, bed-bound, in hospital?

Also how will you pay for it?

The forms are on the UKVI website, it costs £1906.00 and I fear you will certainly need a top-level brief given the lack of positive outcomes re: this visa, someone to establish a precedent. Not cheap, my useless divorce solicitor cost my £155.00/hr back in 2007 so you can see what possibly lies ahead......

Someone will have to challenge it though I suppose, but I reckon everyone is waiting for everyone else to take the first step and spend the wonga....
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Re: Bringing mother to the UK

Post by Amber » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:30 pm

See also, https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... .0_EXT.pdf

Get the Hospital consultant to write a letter stating that your Mother cannot travel due to her health and that any travel could cause severe medical complications.
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Re: Bringing mother to the UK

Post by Frontier Mole » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:12 am

There is danger as soon as you submit any NHS letter as you suggest Amber it will automatically lead to the Intervention Sanctions & Disruption team having an interest.
They will instigate and encorage the persuit the recovery of the NHS costs even if the treating hospital is not aleady doing so. The only exception being deamed emergency treatment.
If the treatment is ongoing as the OP suggests then it is unlikely to be emergency treatment and is likely to be chargable. That leads down the route of costs that have to be paid and if they are not then mandatory refusal of visa application.

The quoted link is only really appropriate for terminally ill individuals which I hope and believe is not the case.

One other point to consider - there might be some inquiry from the HO as to the nature of the illness / condition in that there maybe the view that the visit visa was no more than a method to enter the UK to access medical treatment. In that case they will play the entry by deception card on top of everything else.

I know that the OP will feel this is far from the original question - can my mum stay in the Uk? Given the circumstances and the medical history of her mother and throwing into the mix NHS treatment I would suggest that she seeks legal advice. I can see the HO stance being very much a case of entry by deception given the mothers entry into the NHS system so early on in her stay - assuming it was not due to a medical emergency.

As Wanderer has said - it is very rare for sucessful applications for adult dependents to be granted. The adult has virtually got to be homeless, have not a penny to their name and not a single soul to rely on.

It is going to be a struggle but it is your mum so you have got to try all options.

Wish you well and all the best for your mum.

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Re: Bringing mother to the UK

Post by Amber » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:46 pm

This would be LOTR rather than under Appendix FM.
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