When is The Best Time to Apply Citizenship

[mkhari]

Hello Everyone

28/01/2018 Issued ILR

Could anyone help please what is the best time to apply citizenship

Immigration History

Aug 2002 Came in UK
October 2002 Applied Asylum [ First time brought myself to the attention of the Home Office]
Dec 2002 Refued , Appealed All appeal Righst Exauset in May 2003 Reporting until June 2003 then Absconder.

Nov 2007 Again come attention of HO and apply ECHR which was pending until May 2009, during the time i applied work permission was refused

May 2009 Applied in Legacy while ECHR applciation was pending
October 2010 HO granted Work permision while both legacy n ECHR was pending

In Nov 2011 first DLR granted then extended in Nov 2014 intime applciation and then in 28Jan2018 Granted ILR


According to Good charatcter which is very confusing I brough myself in HO attention twice in 2002 and in 2007

Can i Apply citizenship after 28Jan18 or i need to wait until i complete 10 years legally in UK


Regards

[vinny]

Probably safer to wait until completing 10 years legally in the UK.

[mkhari]

Thanks Vinnay

but is there any chance like 1%
if i apply in feb18 and if refused then ask for review

[CMOSUK]

In my opinion and understanding, if your lawful stay was regularised in 2011 because of the grant of DLR, maybe you should count 10 years from that point forward so long as there was not any break or breach of your immigration leave to remain or the immigration rules.

I can see why Vinny also stated this below.

Probably safer to wait until completing 10 years legally in the UK.

I believe 2021 would be a on the balance of probabilities for a successful application of naturalisation as a British citizen, consideration of a submission date.

prior to that is then taking into account of the history prior to the first grant of DLR in 2011 which is within the 10 years UKVI do consider from my understanding.

If any of this is wrong please feel free to correct me.

[mkhari]

Thanks CMOS and Vinnay


for safe side for sure I should apply Naturalisation after Nov2021

I read below freedom of inforamtion request

[https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... e.pdf.html]


I would like to take a chance i know 99% they will refuse but can i challenge on good character

because i was intouch with HO from 2002 and then from 2007 i was keep on their record and then start re-reporting from 2010 when they asked for

Their rule on good character is not clear

[Alz3eem2018]

Hi Mkhari,

Long time since I saw ur post here. Good to see you back.

I have the same issue as you and exactly the same entry and dlr issue.

First arrived to the UK: October 2002.
Received FIRST DLR 2003 (I was 16) UNTIL 2005 (I became 18).
REFUSED EXTENSION and stayed absconded but with social services knowing my whereby as I was under their support and my younger brother until 2009. Several emails to Home office to overlook my case again and letters from solicitors until 2007 or 2010 (I cant remember exactly) where I was told to start signing and reporting to the home office centre.
- I was granted first 3 years DLR in August 2011 until August 2014.
-2nd DLR APPLICATION APPLIED 28 DAYS BEFORE THE first LEAVE EXPIRED. (July 2014)
- BUT WAS TOLD BY THE HOME OFFICE IN DECEMBER 2014 that I used the wrong form. Gave me another 28 days to resubmit. The resubmission was accepted and was given the 2nd DLR IN January 2015.
-2ND DLR EXPIRES IN JANUARY 2018. Applied for ILR AND RECIEVED IT IN FEBRUARY 2018.

- I WAS TOLD BY CR001 and my solicitor I would fail my good character under the citizenship criteria if I apply in 2019. So I would need to wait until August 2021 until I can apply for my British Citizenship.

So I reckon our story are exactly the same.

[Alz3eem2018]

Hi Mkhari,


I read below freedom of inforamtion request

[https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... e.pdf.html]



Looking at the home office letter response you have just dropped it gives us a slight chance if someone understands the Home Office response clearly.
So as an illegal entry in 2002 I can show them my ARC card which they provided and I still have. I can provide them with correspondence to show I was in touch with them all these years.

Its actually understanding the response clearly and if there is a leu way. Looking at it they are suggesting from the day we applied or entered the UK (IF YOU HAVE GOT EVIDENCE) . CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.

[mkhari]

Hi Mkhari,

Long time since I saw ur post here. Good to see you back.

I have the same issue as you and exactly the same entry and dlr issue.

First arrived to the UK: October 2002.
Received FIRST DLR 2003 (I was 16) UNTIL 2005 (I became 18).
REFUSED EXTENSION and stayed absconded but with social services knowing my whereby as I was under their support and my younger brother until 2009. Several emails to Home office to overlook my case again and letters from solicitors until 2007 or 2010 (I cant remember exactly) where I was told to start signing and reporting to the home office centre.
- I was granted first 3 years DLR in August 2011 until August 2014.
-2nd DLR APPLICATION APPLIED 28 DAYS BEFORE THE first LEAVE EXPIRED. (July 2014)
- BUT WAS TOLD BY THE HOME OFFICE IN DECEMBER 2014 that I used the wrong form. Gave me another 28 days to resubmit. The resubmission was accepted and was given the 2nd DLR IN January 2015.
-2ND DLR EXPIRES IN JANUARY 2018. Applied for ILR AND RECIEVED IT IN FEBRUARY 2018.

- I WAS TOLD BY CR001 and my solicitor I would fail my good character under the citizenship criteria if I apply in 2019. So I would need to wait until August 2021 until I can apply for my British Citizenship.

So I reckon our story are exactly the same.

Goo do See you Alz3eem2018

Was very busy after ILR but keep read thread on this forum time to time

and now its time to creat a post for visitor visa sponsor and citizensip

[mkhari]

Hi Mkhari,


I read below freedom of inforamtion request

[https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... e.pdf.html]



Looking at the home office letter response you have just dropped it gives us a slight chance if someone understands the Home Office response clearly.
So as an illegal entry in 2002 I can show them my ARC card which they provided and I still have. I can provide them with correspondence to show I was in touch with them all these years.

Its actually understanding the response clearly and if there is a leu way. Looking at it they are suggesting from the day we applied or entered the UK (IF YOU HAVE GOT EVIDENCE) . CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.

this link is not working

[mkhari]

The link which i provide

its from freedom of inforamtion request

give me 1% hope and i would liek to go for it

Its says

2. Could you please confirm if the 10 years period for an illegal entrance start
from the date of illegal entry or start from the date of obtaining leave to
remain?

The ten-year period for an illegal entrant will start from the date of entry, if known. Or, if
not known, the date on which the person first brought themselves to or came to the
attention of the Home Office. The date of obtaining leave to remain is not relevant to this
requirement.

[Alz3eem2018]

THE LINK WORKS FOR ME AND I SAW IT... BUT IT NEEDS A SPECIAL SOLICITOR TO LOOK AT IT AND GIVES US HIS FINDINGS AND THOUGHTS AND WHETHER WE CAN APPLY AS I STILL HAVE MY arc CARD SINCE 2002.

[mkhari]

THE LINK WORKS FOR ME AND I SAW IT... BUT IT NEEDS A SPECIAL SOLICITOR TO LOOK AT IT AND GIVES US HIS FINDINGS AND THOUGHTS AND WHETHER WE CAN APPLY AS I STILL HAVE MY arc CARD SINCE 2002.

yes
but most probably i will take a chance

[Alz3eem2018]

MY PRAYERS WITH YOU mkhari….

I GAVE UP FROM ALL THE RESPONSES I RECIEVED. if YOU RECIEVE IT AND GET APPROVED THEN IT'LL BE A GREAT NEWS FOR A LOT...JUST KEEP ME UPDATED. ILL ASK AROUND FOR THE LINK YOUVE SENT...UNLESS ONE OF THE ADMINS IN THIS FORUM CAN COMMENT ON IT AND GIVE US THEIR FEEDBACK.

[CR001]

MY PRAYERS WITH YOU mkhari….

I GAVE UP FROM ALL THE RESPONSES I RECIEVED. if YOU RECIEVE IT AND GET APPROVED THEN IT'LL BE A GREAT NEWS FOR A LOT...JUST KEEP ME UPDATED. ILL ASK AROUND FOR THE LINK YOUVE SENT...UNLESS ONE OF THE ADMINS IN THIS FORUM CAN COMMENT ON IT AND GIVE US THEIR FEEDBACK.

Please refrain from typing in CAPITAL letters. It is harder to read and is the same as SHOUTING!!!

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Dear new member, (all others please read the notes first!)

General Note:

Please do not write in all capitals, AS THIS IS MUCH HARDER TO READ (and appears to be shouting)!

[Alz3eem2018]

Sorry CR001...my keyboard keeps switching from caps to lower case and vice versa...just switched...