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Sorry to be so antagonistic but why should the British Taxpayer foot the bill for this? Privately funded or not, ultimately it's them who pay....bebe2 wrote:hi all ,
a ? ponder
a parent in my son's school is been threarened with removal, his son is severely autistic .5 yrs old and no understanding or speech. he is in a special school, and also getting treatment from autism treatment trust(privately funded) the child was born here and live with his parent both illegal. he wud never get such specialist school in his dads home town in africa.
what could they do to regularise their stay.
How long have they lived here? What country are they from? Have they submitted any application for discretionary leave or any other form of legal residency? If not, why not (i.e. advise from legel reps, no money, etc)?bebe2 wrote:hi all ,
a ? ponder
a parent in my son's school is been threarened with removal, his son is severely autistic .5 yrs old and no understanding or speech. he is in a special school, and also getting treatment from autism treatment trust(privately funded) the child was born here and live with his parent both illegal. he wud never get such specialist school in his dads home town in africa.
what could they do to regularise their stay.
Pardon? The only benefit I've ever had is Child Benefit for our kids which we had when we could afford them.bebe2 wrote:dear wanderer , you seem not to know how how the britisk system work. these parent have been here since 2000 ,and they have lived in my area since 2003 they have always worked. the man does over 60hrs a week from one cleaning job to the other and the wife also works 40hrs as a carer and pay N .I AND Taxes just like you but they never claimed maternity allowance ,child benefit , tax credit you probably do.
i understand they did wrong by being illegal but if for some reason this country became unbearable for you and there was a way you could get into another you would jump in first thjinking you would south the other out latter. they have saved and paid a private hospital to treat their son for autism as the nhs thinks there is no treatment.
in my opinion the only they get for free in this country the air they breath as their taxes and national insurance more than compensate for the others
and the uk should stop encouraging illegal so they can take their taxes, if ni num AB123456B pays a contribution for the first they should wonder who issued that num and trace the employer not pocket it. am sure that what technology is here for.
huuh rant over.
any solution?
Is the private hospital recognised by the General Medical Council or other legal/government body?bebe2 wrote: they have saved and paid a private hospital to treat their son for autism as the nhs thinks there is no treatment.
Heart rendering the circumstances might be but be assured UKBA will remove the family. There are many families in similar or worse positions that have been removed to countries where there is no free treatment or little hope of treatment for their children. The bottom line is clear in law, unless the removal will directly cause the death of the child - i.e. the flight and movement to from the airport the removal will take place.bebe2 wrote:hi all ,
a ? ponder
a parent in my son's school is been threarened with removal, his son is severely autistic .5 yrs old and no understanding or speech. he is in a special school, and also getting treatment from autism treatment trust(privately funded) the child was born here and live with his parent both illegal. he wud never get such specialist school in his dads home town in africa.
what could they do to regularise their stay.
Babysitting is a bit different from adoption. Adoption is permanent, not for in the meantime while parents get some status. Adopting a child with disabilities is a massive issue in itself. Have you discussed this idea of adoption with the parents? Have you accessed any information from Social Services about adoption and what it means for you, the parents and the child? Have you looked into it at all. It's not as easy as it sounds. It's not just a matter of the parents saying yes you can look after my child and you say okay then. You would need to go through vigorous checks which are quite lengthy. It could take up to 2 years for the necessary work to be done before you are apporoved for adoption. No guarantees you will get approved anyway. It's going to be even more difficult if not impossible if the child has no UK status.bebe2 wrote: i am thinking of adopting the boy if the parent has to be deported i babysit him most times.
with all the documentary of child abuse coming from africa at the moment he would be labelled as some kind o freak and abused and he would probably rock himself to death in a few years.
Added to the fact that it would be an international adoption (non-UK/EU citizen child) and you might have to go through both Zambian and UK adoption laws. Plus, the parents would have to cede all rights to the child - they won't have any parental rights.scorpiolady wrote:Babysitting is a bit different from adoption. Adoption is permanent, not for in the meantime while parents get some status. Adopting a child with disabilities is a massive issue in itself. Have you discussed this idea of adoption with the parents? Have you accessed any information from Social Services about adoption and what it means for you, the parents and the child? Have you looked into it at all. It's not as easy as it sounds. It's not just a matter of the parents saying yes you can look after my child and you say okay then. You would need to go through vigorous checks which are quite lengthy. It could take up to 2 years for the necessary work to be done before you are apporoved for adoption. No guarantees you will get approved anyway. It's going to be even more difficult if not impossible if the child has no UK status.bebe2 wrote: i am thinking of adopting the boy if the parent has to be deported i babysit him most times.
with all the documentary of child abuse coming from africa at the moment he would be labelled as some kind o freak and abused and he would probably rock himself to death in a few years.
It may be time for your friend to get specialist advice.Adopted children
309A. For the purposes of adoption under paragraphs 310-316C a de facto adoption shall be regarded as having taken place if:
(a) at the time immediately preceding the making of the application for entry clearance under these Rules the adoptive parent or parents have been living abroad (in applications involving two parents both must have lived abroad together) for at least a period of time equal to the first period mentioned in sub-paragraph (b)(i) and must have cared for the child for at least a period of time equal to the second period material in that sub-paragraph; and
(b) during their time abroad, the adoptive parent or parents have:
(i) lived together for a minimum period of 18 months, of which the 12 months immediately preceding the application for entry clearance must have been spent living together with the child; and
(ii) have assumed the role of the child's parents, since the beginning of the 18 month period, so that there has been a genuine transfer of parental responsibility.
Requirements for indefinite leave to enter the United Kingdom as the adopted child of a parent or parents present and settled or being admitted for settlement in the United Kingdom
310. The requirements to be met in the case of a child seeking indefinite leave to enter the United Kingdom as the adopted child of a parent or parents present and settled or being admitted for settlement in the United Kingdom are that he:
(i) is seeking leave to enter to accompany or join an adoptive parent or parents in one of the following circumstances;
(a) both parents are present and settled in the United Kingdom; or
(b) both parents are being admitted on the same occasion for settlement; or
(c) one parent is present and settled in the United Kingdom and the other is being admitted on the same occasion for settlement; or
(d) one parent is present and settled in the United Kingdom or being admitted on the same occasion for settlement and the other parent is dead; or
(e) one parent is present and settled in the United Kingdom or being admitted on the same occasion for settlement and has had sole responsibility for the child's upbringing; or
(f) one parent is present and settled in the United Kingdom or being admitted on the same occasion for settlement and there are serious and compelling family or other considerations which make exclusion of the child undesirable and suitable arrangements have been made for the child's care; or
(g) in the case of a de facto adoption one parent has a right of abode in the United Kingdom or indefinite leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom and is seeking admission to the United Kingdom on the same occasion for the purposes of settlement; and
(ii) is under the age of 18; and
(iii) is not leading an independent life, is unmarried and is not a civil partner, and has not formed an independent family unit; and
(iv) can, and will, be accommodated and maintained adequately without recourse to public funds in accommodation which the adoptive parent or parents own or occupy exclusively; and
(v) DELETED
(vi) (a) was adopted in accordance with a decision taken by the competent administrative authority or court in his country of origin or the country in which he is resident, being a country whose adoption orders are recognised by the United Kingdom; or
(b) is the subject of a de facto adoption; and
(vii) was adopted at a time when:
(a) both adoptive parents were resident together abroad; or
(b) either or both adoptive parents were settled in the United Kingdom; and
(viii) has the same rights and obligations as any other child of the adoptive parent's or parents' family; and
(ix) was adopted due to the inability of the original parent(s) or current carer(s) to care for him and there has been a genuine transfer of parental responsibility to the adoptive parents; and
(x) has lost or broken his ties with his family of origin; and
(xi) was adopted, but the adoption is not one of convenience arranged to facilitate his admission to or remaining in the United Kingdom; and