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Spouse Visa help

Post by hope1981 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:51 pm

Hiya

Looking to get married in Albania and then apply for spouse visa for partner who has overstayed his visa and is going back of his own accord, been together over 3 and half years, home owner with no debt, over 30k per year job and plenty savings however...............

1. On the form it asks if you have had NHS treatment, my partner has however used his brother NI number and his name and its registered to my address which would be his permanant residience? Should he declare this on the form.....what checks do they do? no probs paying so long as it doesn't affect decision???

2. He has been working self-employed using and his brothers NI ....should he say he is employed and provide all his payslips want to be honest but at same time scared of refusal :(

3. Using a fake passport he got a driving licence then he tried to apply for NI which he was asked to collect passport we knew so he didn't go this was at our address! What should he say about this on form and where as I assume when they check his name against our addy and this will defo come up? Also will they refuse because of this?

4. His real passport was taken from him when he was in a fight and he failed to sign in hence his overstay, his solic said he wasn't charged so what should he declare around this and where?

Thanks in advance for any advice feel helpless just know about what to do!

H x
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Post by Lucapooka » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:57 pm

hope1981 wrote:Hiya

Looking to get married in Albania and then apply for spouse visa for partner who has overstayed his visa and is going back of his own accord, been together over 3 and half years, home owner with no debt, over 30k per year job and plenty savings however...............

1. On the form it asks if you have had NHS treatment, my partner has however used his brother NI number and his name and its registered to my address which would be his permanant residience? Should he declare this on the form.....what checks do they do? no probs paying so long as it doesn't affect decision???

2. He has been working self-employed using and his brothers NI ....should he say he is employed and provide all his payslips want to be honest but at same time scared of refusal :(

3. Using a fake passport he got a driving licence then he tried to apply for NI which he was asked to collect passport we knew so he didn't go this was at our address! What should he say about this on form and where as I assume when they check his name against our addy and this will defo come up? Also will they refuse because of this?

4. His real passport was taken from him when he was in a fight and he failed to sign in hence his overstay, his solic said he wasn't charged so what should he declare around this and where?

Thanks in advance for any advice feel helpless just know about what to do!

H x
The question is asking the applicant if he did something; it's not asking if he did something, but only under his real name. If I kill someone while calling myself John Smith it does mean I can deny doing it because my name is not John Smith. Of course he must respond to all the questions that are asked of him rather than assuming they don't apply to him if he used a fake identity. If he thinks or acts otherwise he is heading for serious trouble.

The only declarations he is required to make are the answers and explanations to the questions on the application form and he must answer each question truthfully. If something is not asked for on the form he does not necessarily need to volunteer information.

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Post by hope1981 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:18 pm

Thanks so much for your help just want to be as honest as we can but dont want to admit things that are as you say not on the form.

So in essence he should state he used the NHS and state that he was employed and supply the pay slips as they are in his name.

Not sure about the have you been charged question as it never got that far due to him not signing in however his solic said the evidence ie video footage shows he was innocent and provoked from the other person?

Is there somewhere on the form about using fake docs though?

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Post by Lucapooka » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:40 pm

hope1981 wrote:Thanks so much for your help just want to be as honest as we can but dont want to admit things that are as you say not on the form.

So in essence he should state he used the NHS and state that he was employed and supply the pay slips as they are in his name.

Not sure about the have you been charged question as it never got that far due to him not signing in however his solic said the evidence ie video footage shows he was innocent and provoked from the other person?

Is there somewhere on the form about using fake docs though?
hope1981 wrote: So in essence he should state he used the NHS and state that he was employed and supply the pay slips as they are in his name.
Only if the form asks for this information. I can see a question asking about NHS treatment but nothing about employment as an overstayer. Furthermore, I don't know why the payslips would be needed. Please be aware that the form is asking specific questions rather than asking the applicant to tell a story in their own words.

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Post by hope1981 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:52 pm

Yeah i see it asks for employment but in the guidance notes it advises to provide 6mths pay slips and 6mths bank statements however the slips are in his name?
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Post by geriatrix » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:39 pm

And the reason for deleting your post, making the topic effectively senseless, in this topic after getting an answer is ...?
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Post by hope1981 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:01 pm

apologies i wanted to make it more straight forward and didnt know how to delete!

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Post by geriatrix » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:02 pm

You could have made things clearer in the same topic and continued with your queries there itself.
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Post by hope1981 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:23 pm

sorry im new to this :(

Parnter is going to get travel doc tomorrow then we will start the process

Can I ask do I need to provide a legalised copy of my bio data from passport via miltonkeynes if sending documents for him to give notice of our marriage, I know I need to send CONI and birth certificate.

Also does anyone know the waiting times for the english test or where to complete for the spouse visa?

Also any idea the current waiting times for appointments for handing in application and documents after completing and paying the fee online?

Thanks

Hx
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Post by Lucapooka » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:06 pm

The first question is a matter for Albania and how they permit foreingers to marry there.

The second question is a matter for the individual test provider. Some issue relevant paperwork immediately or in a matter of days, others take months. So it depends on which test your partner will be taking.

The third question would have to asked of Worldbridge in Albania.

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Post by Assist_ark » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:23 pm

Apologies, really hope I'm not "hijacking" this thread by asking this.

@Lucapooka

Say the Op's partner was working in his name, and he applied for a spouse visa, like above and he receives p60s. Will the immigration check up on all this during background checks? Is this certain and a fact?

Thanks in advance
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Post by hope1981 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:41 pm

its a good question so dont worry! my partner has been working using his bris ni etc and his own name not sure if to delare employed as monies going into his bros account and tax all paid in bros name as self employed! his bro wasnt working so in two minds ??

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Post by Assist_ark » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:04 am

hope1981 wrote:its a good question so dont worry! my partner has been working using his bris ni etc and his own name not sure if to delare employed as monies going into his bros account and tax all paid in bros name as self employed! his bro wasnt working so in two minds ??
Was just asking. Learning from this you see.

To answer your question, from what Lucapooka said, think he should state he worked and the amount he earned.

Now, whether this could be traced back to him, is what I'm not sure about or should I say doubt so (not encouraging you here by the way). Since he used his bothers name.

But, please, wait for their replies first ok. Mine was just an opinion

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Post by hope1981 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:16 am

your opinion is valued and it was just what i was thinking and the question only asks are you employed so technically not asking were you employed unlawfully also his brother is now working that same job now he is away ahhhh so many tears for him going :( fingers crossed be together soon x

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Post by Lucapooka » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:34 am

Assist_ark wrote: To answer your question, from what Lucapooka said, think he should state he worked and the amount he earned.
I've said that the application from asks certain questions, and those questions must be answered honestly and correctly. I also said that openly volunteering information that is not asked on the application form is not necessary. However, anyone is free to do so if they think it will help rather than hinder.

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Post by Assist_ark » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:41 am

hope1981 wrote:your opinion is valued and it was just what i was thinking and the question only asks are you employed so technically not asking were you employed unlawfully also his brother is now working that same job now he is away ahhhh so many tears for him going :( fingers crossed be together soon x
"Are you employed" should not be confused with "Did you work in the UK". Saying so because, the former is current, while the latter is past tense. The former is nothing to be worried about, since he is not presently working, then say "no". Which means he is not earning any monney. But the latter, asks if he has worked, which from what Lukapocka has said, should be "yes". But, based on you, since it wasn't his name, then he didn't work.

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Post by Lucapooka » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:21 am

Assist_ark wrote:But the latter, asks if he has worked, which from what Lukapocka has said, should be "yes".
but only if that question exists

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Post by Assist_ark » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:31 am

Sure.

But lucapoka, what about the scenario I gave. Just curious about it. I'd copy it in this post again below.

Say the Op's partner was working in his name, and he applied for a spouse visa, like above and he receives p60s. Will the immigration check up on all this during background checks? Is this certain and a fact?

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Post by hope1981 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:28 am

Hiya

Just pulling together all the info for spouse visa! never realised how much info I needed!

We are getting married next month and I know I need CNI and birth certificate legalised with the apostile stamp but will I get my birth certificate back after we marry or should I get 2 copies legalised?

Also should I get 2 copies of my passport certified for both marriage and visa?

Thanks in advance!

H x

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Post by geriatrix » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:33 am

Since you are getting married in Albania, you need to check with the office / body concerned in Albania about the requirements for marrying there.

For spouse visa purposes, notarised copy of your passport will be sufficient.
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Post by hope1981 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:36 am

Thanks for info!

I have checked with embassy and I know they need the apostile for marriage on both cni and birth certificate however i needed to know if the apostile was required on the birth certificate for uk spouse visa application?

Thanks

Hx

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Post by geriatrix » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:47 am

Birth certificate for spouse visa application? Never heard of that before.
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Post by hope1981 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:54 am

I saw it on the supporting documents guidance but is this just his birth certificate? don't want to cost myself more money for apostiles!

This could be a letter from your sponsor confirming your relationship and that they are supporting your application, along with copies of:
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your birth certificate or adoption certificate
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your marriage certificate or civil partnership certificate
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a death or divorce certificate
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photographs of your wedding, civil partnership ceremony or other time spent together
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phone records
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emails, letters or cards

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Post by geriatrix » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:20 pm

Reference to birth certificate of the "applicant" is for applicants who are minors (child) applying for entry clearance as a child. Note the "or adoption certificate" next to it!!
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Post by hope1981 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:15 pm

thanks again heads all over the place!!

its it advisable to use a highlighter pen to highligh pieces of information from say facebook screen shots and phone bills or is this not needed?

Also how should prinited 6x4 photos be presented ie in an album?

Who is the safest provider to send documents abroad?

Thanks

H x
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