British working in Germany want to bring my parents to UK

[latansingh]

Hello,
I am British and i am working in Germany for the last 9 months, i would like to bring my parents to UK. I have read the Singh Route, i am confused with the EEA permit because it states family members except spouse need to know German Language. Is this true?

http://www.india.diplo.de/contentblob/3 ... downld.pdf

[ukforever]

Hello,
I am British and i am working in Germany for the last 9 months, i would like to bring my parents to UK. I have read the Singh Route, i am confused with the EEA permit because it states family members except spouse need to know German Language. Is this true?

http://www.india.diplo.de/contentblob/3 ... downld.pdf

u copied the wrong link,it doesn't concern eu/eea citizens but German and settled persons only.

[ukforever]

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=114867

read the surinder singh post,which is the last one in the page.

[latansingh]

Hello,
I understand the process, as you can see i have not attached the correct checklist. The reason for this is i am not able to find a EEA Family Permit form on the Indian Dilpo Site. I have been going crazy as i cannot find appropriate forms or/and checklist.

[ukforever]

Hello,
I understand the process, as you can see i have not attached the correct checklist. The reason for this is i am not able to find a EEA Family Permit form on the Indian Dilpo Site. I have been going crazy as i cannot find appropriate forms or/and checklist.

yeah i see ,but what i don't understand is,if u want to apply for a family permit from germany,then why do u have to go to the link you provided ,..??if u want to apply for a family permit then u should go to the ukba website and apply from there,u need just to go to *apply online* option and you will get there eventually...u will find the right form there which is in this link below:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucit ... documents/

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... permit.pdf

PS:the link u provided is from the german embassy in india(mumbai)..i guess i'm beginning to understand,maybe your parents are still in india and u want to get them to germany first then to the uk..!!i suggest then if its the case,u need to explain clearly your case next time so people can advice u accordingly.. if its not the case then ignore my last remark.
FAMILY PERMIT is an entry clearance visa to the UK only,what u are looking for maybe is a chenggen visa class C (90 days)for your parents,then u can apply for residence card once they are with u.

[ukforever]

please explain your case clearly,as u mentioned u are in germany for the last 9 months,u need to tell us if your parents are living with u or not,because they must be living with you before u move back to the uk.
explain your circumstances more clearly then,members of this forum could help/advice u better when they can see the whole picture.

[latansingh]

Hello UKForever,
Your comments are valid,

My parents are in India, they hold a Vistors Visa for UK Only. I want to bring them to UK and the current regulations have made it difficult.

I would want to know which visa do they need to apply so they can come to UK under the EEA Family Route (Singh Route).

I was under the impression they need to apply with the Germany Embassy as i have German Residence? Please note I have a house in UK and can switch my Residence easily as i am self employed.

1) Could you please tell me which form do they need to fill?
2) Will they have full rights as a EEA Family Permit?

Thank You for your help.

[latansingh]

Hello,
I understand the process, as you can see i have not attached the correct checklist. The reason for this is i am not able to find a EEA Family Permit form on the Indian Dilpo Site. I have been going crazy as i cannot find appropriate forms or/and checklist.

yeah i see ,but what i don't understand is,if u want to apply for a family permit from germany,then why do u have to go to the link you provided ,..??if u want to apply for a family permit then u should go to the ukba website and apply from there,u need just to go to *apply online* option and you will get there eventually...u will find the right form there which is in this link below:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucit ... documents/

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... permit.pdf

PS:the link u provided is from the german embassy in india(mumbai)..i guess i'm beginning to understand,maybe your parents are still in india and u want to get them to germany first then to the uk..!!i suggest then if its the case,u need to explain clearly your case next time so people can advice u accordingly.. if its not the case then ignore my last remark.
FAMILY PERMIT is an entry clearance visa to the UK only,what u are looking for maybe is a chenggen visa class C (90 days)for your parents,then u can apply for residence card once they are with u.

Hello,
Do they have to apply a schengen visa class C (90 days) and then apply EEA permit in Germany?
OR
Can they apply for the EEA Permit from UK when on a Vistors Visa or from India?

[ukforever]

well,now we talking..

first u need to know that under eu law,if u want to bring a family member under the singh route,your parents need to be living with u in any eu country other than the uk,and you need to show that your parents were dependent on u and were living with u the whole time or are part of your household.
they need to apply for a chenggen visa class C (90days) and then once they are in germany u need to apply for residence card for them.
u need to show/prove that your parents are dependent on u in india in order for them to get the residence card in germany(this could be western union receipts,bank transfer,proof that u are paying their expenses , rent , utility bills ..ect),then when they get the residence card,u are not out of the woods yet,u will have to apply for the family permit from the uk's embassy in mumbai,the ukba will scrutinize your application and it could take more than usual for them to decide and expect everything from them...u will need to show proof exercising your treaty rights and as i understand you are self employed,so its good and need to show that u resided with your parents,also need to show dependency.

it would have been better if your parents were living with u from the start of your venture,as u can't just get them to germany and move back right away,doesn't work like that,and i suggest once they are in germany,to stay with u for at least 3 to 6 months and then move back to the uk with the requested paperwork.

i'm not really sure how it work with parents of uk citizens under singh route but i guess someone from the forum has more knowledge and would shed some light on the matter,as what i know is related to spouse/partner cases.

[ukforever]

i sent u already the links above,regarding what u need for the family permit and it states clearly that u need to show that u are exercising your treaty rights and also that the family member(s) is/are living with you.
in the link regarding the requested documents,u don't need to get all the requested paperwork,under eu laws there is certain documents that u need to supply and not all what was requested in the link..it not lawfull,but the uk tend to ignore the eu directive.

http://eumovement.wordpress.com/2007/04 ... u-citizen/

http://eumovement.wordpress.com/2007/04 ... ional-law/

http://eumovement.wordpress.com/eu-coun ... d-kingdom/

[Jambo]

Your parents need to move to live with you in Germany to be eligible to use Surinder Singh route. So they need a visa for Germany. EEA Family Permit is a UK only visa. For Germany, they need a Schengen visa. You will need to prove they are financially dependant on you if apply under EEA rules.

After living in Germany with you, and once you plan to move back to the UK, they can apply for a EEA Family Permit to move to the UK. The application can be made in Germany.

[jinkazama_11]

Your parents need to move to live with you in Germany to be eligible to use Surinder Singh route. So they need a visa for Germany. EEA Family Permit is a UK only visa. For Germany, they need a Schengen visa. You will need to prove they are financially dependant on you if apply under EEA rules.

After living in Germany with you, and once you plan to move back to the UK, they can apply for a EEA Family Permit to move to the UK. The application can be made in Germany.

I am in the same situation. I am planning to move to France and exercise my treaty rights by self employment. My mom currently holds UK visitor visa. She will visit me in France on schengen visa. once there I will apply for her EEA family member resident permit. She will reside with me in France for 3-6 months.
Now my question is
1)- When I will come back to UK can she travel with me as she got UK visitor visa? Once in the UK can she apply using EEA2 form by following Surinder Singh route.
2)- If she can't travel as mentioned in my question 1 then she have to apply in France. But in the form vaf5 "Surinder singh" criteria isn't mentioned. What we have to do in this case.
3)- I have been told that living together in other member state (France in my case) is only mandatory for spouse and its not mandatory for parents.

Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.

[jinkazama_11]

Your parents need to move to live with you in Germany to be eligible to use Surinder Singh route. So they need a visa for Germany. EEA Family Permit is a UK only visa. For Germany, they need a Schengen visa. You will need to prove they are financially dependant on you if apply under EEA rules.

After living in Germany with you, and once you plan to move back to the UK, they can apply for a EEA Family Permit to move to the UK. The application can be made in Germany.

I am in the same situation. I am planning to move to France and exercise my treaty rights by self employment. My mom currently holds UK visitor visa. She will visit me in France on schengen visa. once there I will apply for her EEA family member resident permit. She will reside with me in France for 3-6 months.
Now my question is
1)- When I will come back to UK can she travel with me as she got UK visitor visa? Once in the UK can she apply using EEA2 form by following Surinder Singh route.
2)- If she can't travel as mentioned in my question 1 then she have to apply in France. But in the form vaf5 "Surinder singh" criteria isn't mentioned. What we have to do in this case.
3)- I have been told that living together in other member state (France in my case) is only mandatory for spouse and its not mandatory for parents.

Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Can some one help please.

[Jambo]

1. Yes she can.
3. Who told you that? The parents will need to live with you in France.

[jinkazama_11]

1. Yes she can.
3. Who told you that? The parents will need to live with you in France.

I have asked a solicitor over the phone and he mentioned that living together is only applicable to spouse and I should exercise my treaty right for a minimum period of 6 months.

I am not sure if it is necessary to live there for 6 months with my mom.

Thanks Jambo for very valuable information, much appreciated.

[ukforever]

1. Yes she can.
3. Who told you that? The parents will need to live with you in France.

I have asked a solicitor over the phone and he mentioned that living together is only applicable to spouse and I should exercise my treaty right for a minimum period of 6 months.

I am not sure if it is necessary to live there for 6 months with my mom.

Thanks Jambo for very valuable information, much appreciated.

to be regarded as exercising treaty right u need to be deemed as a worker and economically active,meaning to use this route u need to prove to them that u exercised your treaty rights,and there is no minimum set of time required..to be deemed as a worker under eu laws,u need to be working for a minimum of 10 weeks and working 12 hours a week is sufficient..only then u will be regarded as a worker under the directive,so i don't see why this *lawyer* is saying otherwise..just asked him to print out the law/directive where it says u need to be working and exercising your treaty rights for 6 month.

http://eumovement.wordpress.com/2011/12 ... -a-worker/

[jinkazama_11]

1. Yes she can.
3. Who told you that? The parents will need to live with you in France.

I have asked a solicitor over the phone and he mentioned that living together is only applicable to spouse and I should exercise my treaty right for a minimum period of 6 months.

I am not sure if it is necessary to live there for 6 months with my mom.

Thanks Jambo for very valuable information, much appreciated.

to be regarded as exercising treaty right u need to be deemed as a worker and economically active,meaning to use this route u need to prove to them that u exercised your treaty rights,and there is no minimum set of time required..to be deemed as a worker under eu laws,u need to be working for a minimum of 10 weeks and working 12 hours a week is sufficient..only then u will be regarded as a worker under the directive,so i don't see why this *lawyer* is saying otherwise..just asked him to print out the law/directive where it says u need to be working and exercising your treaty rights for 6 month.

http://eumovement.wordpress.com/2011/12 ... -a-worker/

ukforever you are brilliant, thank you very much for your assistance. I love you bro.

[ukforever]

no problem man,i'm here to help.

[jinkazama_11]

Is it necessary to get the residence card for the dependant in France or any other EU citizen before coming back to UK? I think French take a long time to issue a residence card.
Also is it important to have joint bank account when dependant is a parent?

Sorry to be a pain but just trying to gather all the facts.

Thanks

[jinkazama_11]

Hi
Is it possible to apply for "visit visa" or "Family member of EEA national" visa for my mother to either France/Ireland/Belgium. She is currently in UK as a visitor. I am unable to find this information on these countries consulates websites.

Thanks