Are Non EU family members Subject to Immigration Control?

kreativzon · Post by **kreativzon** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:39 am

Hi I would like to know what actually means subject to Immigration Control.

Are non-eu family members residing in uk on chen case, subject to immigration control?

Appreciate your answer on this.

Thanks

askmeplz82 · Post by **askmeplz82** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:18 am

kreativzon wrote:Hi I would like to know what actually means subject to Immigration Control.

Are non-eu family members residing in uk on chen case, subject to immigration control?

Appreciate your answer on this.

Thanks

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/cbtmanual/cbtm10120.htm

kreativzon · Post by **kreativzon** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:47 pm

askmeplz82 wrote:
kreativzon wrote:Hi I would like to know what actually means subject to Immigration Control.

Are non-eu family members residing in uk on chen case, subject to immigration control?

Appreciate your answer on this.

Thanks

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/cbtmanual/cbtm10120.htm

Thank you for the prompt reply, it was really helpful.

So according to CBTM10120, family members of EEA National child are not subject to Immigration control

Correct me if I am wrong please.

Post by **Jambo** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:55 pm

Why are you asking the question? It is for filling in a benefits claim form?

kreativzon · Post by **kreativzon** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:47 pm

Jambo wrote:Why are you asking the question? It is for filling in a benefits claim form?

Yes, I intend to claim child tax credit, CB and housing benefit. But I do not want to breach laws as it says chen cases are not entitled to benefits.

So was just looking for an answer.

Post by **Jambo** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:07 pm

Under Chen you are expected to be self sufficient and not to be a burden on the state by claiming public funds.

Amebo · Post by **Amebo** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:07 pm

Jambo wrote:Under Chen you are expected to be self sufficient and not to be a burden on the state by claiming public funds.

Please what is chen? can you guys plss explain to me brief orwithout abrivation. Thanks

kreativzon · Post by **kreativzon** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:51 pm

Amebo wrote:
Jambo wrote:Under Chen you are expected to be self sufficient and not to be a burden on the state by claiming public funds.

Please what is chen? can you guys plss explain to me brief orwithout abrivation. Thanks

Yes, I know that chen cases are to be self sufficient. But my question was whether we are still able to claim benefits?. Because it is not necessary that in a period of 5 years in uk someone will not always be employed. and at some part of time may require state help or funds.

Some info on chen
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... /eun/eun5/

Post by **Jambo** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:26 pm

Someone is not expected to be employed all the time but he is expected not to rely on public funds. That's the whole point of self sufficient. Being able to maintain yourself without help.

You should also be aware that the HO view is that DRC doesn't lead to PR (after 5 years) under the EEA Regulations.

stars · Post by **stars** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:52 am

Jambo wrote:Someone is not expected to be employed all the time but he is expected not to rely on public funds. That's the whole point of self sufficient. Being able to maintain yourself without help.

You should also be aware that the HO view is that DRC doesn't lead to PR (after 5 years) under the EEA Regulations.

what is DRC?

Post by **Obie** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:32 am

Jambo wrote:Under Chen you are expected to be self sufficient and not to be a burden on the state by claiming public funds.

The question is unreasonable burden and not simply burden .

Also see brey

Post by **Amber** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:45 am

Indeed Obie, as the OP was told here, to claim 'in-work' benefits would more than likely not be unreasonable.

Manimba · Post by **Manimba** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:45 pm

Hi Obie, maybe u can help, am a non-eu family member on a 5-yr residence card, do you know if i can claim job seekers allowance, been looking for work for the past 6 or so months but things r tough financially, my partner works but thats his money, just got 4 weeks temporary work but could do with some help till i get a job, do you think i can claim anything or am not entitled? Many thanks.

Post by **Amber** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:12 pm

kreativzon wrote:Hello Everyone,

Do you know any reliable private health insurance companies where we can get cost effective CSI?

We are in the process of applying EEA FP from Portugal.

Secondly, does any one know what amount of bank statement is required for EEA FP - 2 adults and 2 children??

Regards,

Jambo wrote:It is worth adding that you apply under Chen as self sufficiency and CSI normally not required for EEA FP

kreativzon wrote:Ok, So what I understand is that for EEA FP CSI is not required but it is good if we add it, am i right?

And, when we apply for EEA2 from Uk then we need CSI right?

Any information will be very helpful for us at this moment.

Post by **Amber** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:13 pm

kreativzon wrote:Hello All,

We are in the process of Applying EEA Family permit on basis of CHEN case.

We are confused with the supporting documents.

Is there anyone who can guide us on this please? We only have one week to go so need to confirm if we do not miss out nay important documents for the visa.

Thank you in advance

kreativzon wrote:ANYONE GUYS!!!???

Obie wrote:Are you applying for an EEA family permit or a derivative Residence Card?

You need to show that you have sufficient resource, and the child will not be an unreasonable burden on the UK.

Medical insurance and Evidence of Sufficient resources , and the source of it may be required.

Post by **Amber** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:15 pm

kreativzon please do not post in capitals and please learn to be patient.

See read before you post / netiquette / choosing your title (click) and the Terms & Conditions (click)

Post by **Amber** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:16 pm

kreativzon wrote:How can I apply Derivative residence Card outside uk?

I am applying EEA FP to enter UK and will be applying for DR card from uk?

Does it sound reasonable?

kreativzon · Post by **kreativzon** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:27 pm

D4109125 wrote:
kreativzon wrote:How can I apply Derivative residence Card outside uk?

I am applying EEA FP to enter UK and will be applying for DR card from uk?

Does it sound reasonable?

Hi D4109125,

Sorry I did not go through the rules. I do not mean to rush in. I apologise for this and I will be careful and more patient.

Thanks

kreativzon · Post by **kreativzon** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:12 am

kreativzon wrote:
D4109125 wrote:
kreativzon wrote:How can I apply Derivative residence Card outside uk?

I am applying EEA FP to enter UK and will be applying for DR card from uk?

Does it sound reasonable?
Hi D4109125,

Sorry I did not go through the rules. I do not mean to rush in. I apologise for this and I will be careful and more patient.

Thanks

Hi,
Am still waiting for someone to reply. just 4 days to go for us to submit our EEA fp.

Please help.

Post by **EUsmileWEallsmile** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:40 am

@ kreativzon, what exactly is your question?

kreativzon · Post by **kreativzon** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:06 am

EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:@ kreativzon, what exactly is your question?

Hello EUsmileWEallsmile ,

We are in the process of applying EEA FP from Portugal on chen basis

My question is

1. What supporting documents are required to apply for EEA Fp to enter UK
2. is EHIC sufficient as a CSI to enter uk on eea fp?
3. What amount of funds would be required for this EEA FP?

Thank you in advance.

Post by **EUsmileWEallsmile** » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:37 pm

I am really not sure at all. It's good that you've clarified your question.

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